1 00:00:04,970 --> 00:00:03,050 I never expected to see this kind of 2 00:00:06,889 --> 00:00:04,980 progress made on this subject 3 00:00:10,549 --> 00:00:06,899 ever in my life 4 00:00:11,930 --> 00:00:10,559 it is undoubted that our government and 5 00:00:15,049 --> 00:00:11,940 our intelligence agencies have 6 00:00:16,970 --> 00:00:15,059 sequestered UAP or UFO technologies that 7 00:00:20,029 --> 00:00:16,980 have been exploiting them for derivative 8 00:00:22,250 --> 00:00:20,039 Technologies for decades are back in the 9 00:00:24,769 --> 00:00:22,260 day what he said is becoming much more 10 00:00:27,529 --> 00:00:24,779 relevant these days 11 00:00:30,290 --> 00:00:27,539 Secrets cover-ups and strange phenomena 12 00:00:33,350 --> 00:00:30,300 UFOs and ideas that challenge reality 13 00:00:34,970 --> 00:00:33,360 itself all these Mysteries all this time 14 00:00:37,549 --> 00:00:34,980 are we ever going to get to the bottom 15 00:00:40,130 --> 00:00:37,559 of these my name is George Knapp I dig 16 00:00:42,410 --> 00:00:40,140 into news stories that others can't or 17 00:00:44,090 --> 00:00:42,420 won't I'm Jeremy Corbell and for some 18 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:44,100 reason people tell me things they 19 00:00:50,810 --> 00:00:46,079 probably shouldn't 20 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:53,150 foreign 21 00:00:57,950 --> 00:00:55,250 this is weaponized welcome back you know 22 00:01:00,650 --> 00:00:57,960 Jeremy we had a plan to talk about UFO 23 00:01:02,209 --> 00:01:00,660 UAP news unfortunately there's nothing 24 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:02,219 happening so this could be the shortest 25 00:01:06,410 --> 00:01:04,320 podcast ever yeah man nothing's 26 00:01:08,750 --> 00:01:06,420 happening what a week what a couple 27 00:01:10,190 --> 00:01:08,760 weeks man I mean this has been really uh 28 00:01:12,350 --> 00:01:10,200 enlightening I think for the general 29 00:01:14,690 --> 00:01:12,360 public right what a week what a month 30 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:14,700 what a year right what five years the 31 00:01:18,770 --> 00:01:16,260 last I mean we've said it many times 32 00:01:21,530 --> 00:01:18,780 that I never expected to see this kind 33 00:01:24,770 --> 00:01:21,540 of progress made on this subject uh ever 34 00:01:27,590 --> 00:01:24,780 in my life and the the story is just 35 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:27,600 flipped over completely yeah we we saw 36 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:30,180 members of congress come out and drop 37 00:01:34,190 --> 00:01:32,640 some bombs this past week 38 00:01:36,469 --> 00:01:34,200 um you know we've heard some Senator 39 00:01:38,690 --> 00:01:36,479 gillibrand we've heard from a 40 00:01:41,749 --> 00:01:38,700 representatives burchett and Gallagher 41 00:01:43,609 --> 00:01:41,759 and uh Marco Rubio stepped up to the 42 00:01:46,249 --> 00:01:43,619 plate this week in an interview on news 43 00:01:48,410 --> 00:01:46,259 nation and dropped some absolute bombs 44 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:48,420 so we want to start with that yeah for 45 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:50,939 sure he he absolutely did so you know 46 00:01:55,850 --> 00:01:54,240 some of what senator rubia said I think 47 00:01:59,149 --> 00:01:55,860 for the general public was like really 48 00:02:01,310 --> 00:01:59,159 shocking right this is right after new 49 00:02:03,410 --> 00:02:01,320 legislation was kind of proposed passed 50 00:02:04,929 --> 00:02:03,420 bipartisan you know it's got some more 51 00:02:07,910 --> 00:02:04,939 steps to go before it's signed into law 52 00:02:09,770 --> 00:02:07,920 but uh some of the things that he said 53 00:02:11,930 --> 00:02:09,780 that were so powerful to me was that 54 00:02:13,970 --> 00:02:11,940 first of all there are witnesses that 55 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:13,980 came forward of high class he said very 56 00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:17,280 high classification that don't that are 57 00:02:20,690 --> 00:02:18,900 not public yet these are people you 58 00:02:22,670 --> 00:02:20,700 haven't heard from so these are not The 59 00:02:24,290 --> 00:02:22,680 Usual Suspects these are people that are 60 00:02:26,690 --> 00:02:24,300 worried about their jobs they're worried 61 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:26,700 about their clearances they're worried 62 00:02:31,309 --> 00:02:29,280 about uh personal safety he even said 63 00:02:33,050 --> 00:02:31,319 which is which is something you and I 64 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:33,060 know about but it's not something that 65 00:02:36,770 --> 00:02:34,560 is real public is that people are 66 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:36,780 actually worried about their safety 67 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:38,640 members of Congress have stepped up to 68 00:02:42,890 --> 00:02:40,260 the plate have done a great job of 69 00:02:44,690 --> 00:02:42,900 providing some sort of a safe haven for 70 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:44,700 whistleblowers to come forward certain 71 00:02:49,070 --> 00:02:46,800 protections legal protections and have 72 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:49,080 encouraged people to step up and tell 73 00:02:53,570 --> 00:02:50,879 what they know one of those of course 74 00:02:55,850 --> 00:02:53,580 was our friend Dave gresh who did 75 00:02:58,430 --> 00:02:55,860 testify multiple times behind closed 76 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:58,440 doors under oath and it was pretty clear 77 00:03:02,990 --> 00:03:01,200 from Marco Rubio's comments that he was 78 00:03:05,089 --> 00:03:03,000 impressed by what Dave Crush had to say 79 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:05,099 for sure and he talked about him but 80 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:06,900 what also is important that he talked 81 00:03:13,009 --> 00:03:09,840 about was that it wasn't just Dave right 82 00:03:16,070 --> 00:03:13,019 that he has direct he calls it or they 83 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:16,080 call it firsthand experiencers of this 84 00:03:19,070 --> 00:03:17,760 technology so people reverse engineering 85 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:19,080 are working on these programs that 86 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:22,080 actually saw physically held these craft 87 00:03:25,970 --> 00:03:24,000 materials that kind of thing people 88 00:03:28,009 --> 00:03:25,980 argue that Dave grosh is like a 89 00:03:29,449 --> 00:03:28,019 secondhand witness that he's not a 90 00:03:31,309 --> 00:03:29,459 first-hand witness what do you say to 91 00:03:33,470 --> 00:03:31,319 that okay so but we have to understand 92 00:03:36,890 --> 00:03:33,480 that's what ruby is talking about what 93 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:36,900 Dave grosh did is he found people within 94 00:03:41,570 --> 00:03:39,060 these saps Within These exploitation 95 00:03:44,030 --> 00:03:41,580 programs and he had them testify to him 96 00:03:45,649 --> 00:03:44,040 about their first-hand direct knowledge 97 00:03:49,009 --> 00:03:45,659 of these programs 98 00:03:50,449 --> 00:03:49,019 he then passed that over to the icig 99 00:03:53,210 --> 00:03:50,459 which is intelligence Community 100 00:03:55,550 --> 00:03:53,220 Inspector General they did their own 101 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:55,560 independent research and did their own 102 00:04:00,110 --> 00:03:58,560 independent interviews under oath in the 103 00:04:02,390 --> 00:04:00,120 classified setting where everything 104 00:04:04,850 --> 00:04:02,400 could be said and they were convinced 105 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:04,860 that this is important that it's 106 00:04:09,890 --> 00:04:07,200 credible and that it's urgent so this 107 00:04:11,690 --> 00:04:09,900 idea that Senator Rubio also has people 108 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:11,700 that he's heard from that physically 109 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:14,640 work on these programs now right this is 110 00:04:19,009 --> 00:04:17,100 exactly what Dave grush reported and he 111 00:04:22,189 --> 00:04:19,019 reported the illegality of it if this 112 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:22,199 wasn't UFOs it would just be an issue of 113 00:04:26,810 --> 00:04:24,000 misappropriation of funds and secret 114 00:04:28,189 --> 00:04:26,820 over secrecy but because it's UFOs it's 115 00:04:30,129 --> 00:04:28,199 something else but that's what Dave 116 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:30,139 grosh did was he put it all together 117 00:04:36,650 --> 00:04:33,600 within his ability that he was tasked to 118 00:04:38,810 --> 00:04:36,660 do through the uaptf to look at these 119 00:04:40,909 --> 00:04:38,820 sap special access programs and 120 00:04:42,890 --> 00:04:40,919 compartmentalized programs and find out 121 00:04:44,749 --> 00:04:42,900 what's going on he then pushed that over 122 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:44,759 to the icig they did their own 123 00:04:51,950 --> 00:04:47,520 independent investigation and guess what 124 00:04:54,830 --> 00:04:51,960 credible and urgent it is uh hilarious 125 00:04:56,510 --> 00:04:54,840 sad and appalling to see some of the 126 00:04:59,090 --> 00:04:56,520 attacks that are attempted on Dave 127 00:05:00,950 --> 00:04:59,100 brush's credibility coming out of left 128 00:05:04,070 --> 00:05:00,960 field the kinds of things that people 129 00:05:06,110 --> 00:05:04,080 try to make stick to him so far they've 130 00:05:08,090 --> 00:05:06,120 all failed they obviously failed in the 131 00:05:09,890 --> 00:05:08,100 estimation of Senator Marco Rubio 132 00:05:11,930 --> 00:05:09,900 because these this is what he said on 133 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:11,940 news Nation people say there are people 134 00:05:15,469 --> 00:05:13,320 that have come forward to share 135 00:05:17,030 --> 00:05:15,479 information with our committee over the 136 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:17,040 last couple of years I would imagine 137 00:05:20,450 --> 00:05:18,720 some of them are potentially some of the 138 00:05:22,490 --> 00:05:20,460 same people that perhaps he's referring 139 00:05:23,810 --> 00:05:22,500 to I want to be very protective of these 140 00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:23,820 people a lot of these people came to us 141 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:25,560 even before these protections were in 142 00:05:27,890 --> 00:05:27,120 the law for whistleblowers to come 143 00:05:29,450 --> 00:05:27,900 forward 144 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:29,460 there are people people who have had 145 00:05:33,110 --> 00:05:31,680 first-hand knowledge who claim to have 146 00:05:35,090 --> 00:05:33,120 firsthand knowledge of seeing this type 147 00:05:37,730 --> 00:05:35,100 of thing or have firsthand knowledge or 148 00:05:39,350 --> 00:05:37,740 firsthand claims of certain things uh 149 00:05:40,490 --> 00:05:39,360 some are public figures you know and and 150 00:05:41,810 --> 00:05:40,500 you've heard from them in the past 151 00:05:44,570 --> 00:05:41,820 others 152 00:05:45,770 --> 00:05:44,580 um you know have not shared publicly and 153 00:05:47,150 --> 00:05:45,780 so we're trying to gather as much of 154 00:05:48,170 --> 00:05:47,160 that information as we can but and the 155 00:05:49,730 --> 00:05:48,180 reason why I'm being cautious about 156 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,740 trying to be evasive but I am trying to 157 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:51,360 be protective of these people some of 158 00:05:54,170 --> 00:05:52,440 these people still work in the 159 00:05:56,689 --> 00:05:54,180 government and frankly a lot of them are 160 00:05:58,969 --> 00:05:56,699 very fearful of their jobs fearful their 161 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:58,979 clearances fearful of their career and 162 00:06:03,230 --> 00:06:01,440 and and some frankly are fearful of harm 163 00:06:04,730 --> 00:06:03,240 coming to them so that category of 164 00:06:06,170 --> 00:06:04,740 people who have first-hand knowledge who 165 00:06:08,450 --> 00:06:06,180 say they have actually seen these kinds 166 00:06:11,210 --> 00:06:08,460 of things do you find many of them 167 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:11,220 credible well I don't find them either 168 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:13,440 not credible or credible because we have 169 00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:15,419 no basis about we understand some of 170 00:06:18,409 --> 00:06:16,800 these claims are things that are Beyond 171 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,419 sort of the realm of what any of us has 172 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:20,400 ever dealt with what I think we owe them 173 00:06:25,309 --> 00:06:23,220 is just a mature you know understand 174 00:06:26,749 --> 00:06:25,319 listening and trying to put these all 175 00:06:28,249 --> 00:06:26,759 these pieces together and just sort of 176 00:06:29,629 --> 00:06:28,259 intake the information without any 177 00:06:31,070 --> 00:06:29,639 prejudgment or jumping to any 178 00:06:33,950 --> 00:06:31,080 conclusions in One Direction or another 179 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:33,960 I will say I find most of these people 180 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:36,000 at some point or maybe even currently 181 00:06:40,610 --> 00:06:38,400 have held very high clearances in high 182 00:06:42,529 --> 00:06:40,620 positions within our government so you 183 00:06:45,409 --> 00:06:42,539 start out you do ask yourself like what 184 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:45,419 incentive would so many people with that 185 00:06:50,150 --> 00:06:48,000 kind of um qualification these are 186 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:50,160 serious people have to come forward and 187 00:06:53,990 --> 00:06:52,080 make something up 188 00:06:56,570 --> 00:06:54,000 I want to send out some props to news 189 00:06:58,790 --> 00:06:56,580 Nation they've jumped into the UFO deep 190 00:07:01,550 --> 00:06:58,800 end of the pool in a big way that's the 191 00:07:03,230 --> 00:07:01,560 parent Corporation for KLOS TV the guy 192 00:07:05,390 --> 00:07:03,240 who's sort of running the show there as 193 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:05,400 a an executive named Chris Berg 194 00:07:11,510 --> 00:07:08,880 television news man uh many many years 195 00:07:14,029 --> 00:07:11,520 who helped me create mystery wire at 196 00:07:16,129 --> 00:07:14,039 kles TV and was a great champion of that 197 00:07:17,510 --> 00:07:16,139 and he's doing great work their whole 198 00:07:20,450 --> 00:07:17,520 team is doing great work to give a 199 00:07:22,129 --> 00:07:20,460 platform to Marco Rubio to you and 200 00:07:24,589 --> 00:07:22,139 others what's your experience been like 201 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:24,599 with them yeah well look I mean people 202 00:07:29,150 --> 00:07:26,880 news people always want to talk about 203 00:07:30,830 --> 00:07:29,160 what's going on I try to you know kind 204 00:07:33,050 --> 00:07:30,840 of stay out of it to a degree but when 205 00:07:34,730 --> 00:07:33,060 it's something that's pressing I think 206 00:07:36,529 --> 00:07:34,740 they've been covering the news really 207 00:07:38,270 --> 00:07:36,539 well I think that they have taken it 208 00:07:41,390 --> 00:07:38,280 head on where other 209 00:07:43,070 --> 00:07:41,400 big news organizations haven't jumped in 210 00:07:44,510 --> 00:07:43,080 in the way you'd Hope just report the 211 00:07:46,370 --> 00:07:44,520 news that's all we're asking just report 212 00:07:47,749 --> 00:07:46,380 the news so I think they've done a great 213 00:07:49,189 --> 00:07:47,759 job they're they're navigating a new 214 00:07:50,809 --> 00:07:49,199 space a lot of these people that are 215 00:07:52,909 --> 00:07:50,819 doing it they they're not really 216 00:07:55,610 --> 00:07:52,919 indoctrinated into what's been going on 217 00:07:58,550 --> 00:07:55,620 with UFOs it is amazing 218 00:08:01,189 --> 00:07:58,560 the major media platforms that have not 219 00:08:03,830 --> 00:08:01,199 touched this either they come out and do 220 00:08:05,809 --> 00:08:03,840 some disparaging remark and op-ed column 221 00:08:08,330 --> 00:08:05,819 kind of a thing or ignore it altogether 222 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:08,340 which is more common uh the fact that 223 00:08:12,290 --> 00:08:09,900 they have not touched the Dave brush 224 00:08:13,850 --> 00:08:12,300 Story how do you not report that story 225 00:08:15,770 --> 00:08:13,860 whether you believe him or not as 226 00:08:18,290 --> 00:08:15,780 irrelevant him testifying to Congress 227 00:08:20,570 --> 00:08:18,300 members of Congress accepting him as 228 00:08:23,689 --> 00:08:20,580 being a valid and believable it's 229 00:08:26,589 --> 00:08:23,699 amazing that you can not cover it it's 230 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:26,599 it's a huge story and it is 231 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:28,500 surprising in the way that other 232 00:08:33,709 --> 00:08:30,240 networks might not have covered it 233 00:08:35,990 --> 00:08:33,719 however I as the eternal optimist I know 234 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:36,000 for sure that there are good reporters 235 00:08:40,310 --> 00:08:38,159 like at NBC you've got Gotti Schwartz 236 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:40,320 and he does everything in his power to 237 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:42,000 cover this now look everybody has a 238 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:43,620 different bar of like what do you need 239 00:08:47,449 --> 00:08:45,120 to know just because there's an IG 240 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:47,459 report doesn't mean that what's in that 241 00:08:52,730 --> 00:08:50,640 report is 100 factual so everybody has a 242 00:08:55,250 --> 00:08:52,740 different bar I will say behind the 243 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:55,260 scenes some of these big networks are 244 00:09:00,590 --> 00:08:57,600 trying to figure out how best to cover 245 00:09:02,810 --> 00:09:00,600 it they really are trying I hope that 246 00:09:05,389 --> 00:09:02,820 the spillover of the news the actual 247 00:09:07,370 --> 00:09:05,399 information does start bleeding out into 248 00:09:09,650 --> 00:09:07,380 bigger media Outlets but I think people 249 00:09:11,150 --> 00:09:09,660 are confused this is like rubia said 250 00:09:12,949 --> 00:09:11,160 that in in that interview that we just 251 00:09:14,930 --> 00:09:12,959 heard he said you know this is something 252 00:09:16,670 --> 00:09:14,940 we've never dealt with before these 253 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:16,680 claims are something we've never dealt 254 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:19,080 with before that that's so true well 255 00:09:23,389 --> 00:09:21,120 it's true for media as well for 256 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:23,399 reporters now that story has been there 257 00:09:29,810 --> 00:09:26,640 as low hanging fruit big juicy plump 258 00:09:32,389 --> 00:09:29,820 ready for plucking for decades and yet 259 00:09:34,250 --> 00:09:32,399 major media my news brethren have 260 00:09:36,590 --> 00:09:34,260 ignored it and in fact they not only 261 00:09:39,410 --> 00:09:36,600 ignored it they have dumped on it and 262 00:09:41,150 --> 00:09:39,420 ridiculed those who do dive into it and 263 00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:41,160 now they're suddenly finding out holy 264 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:42,959 cow there's a real story here and 265 00:09:47,449 --> 00:09:45,120 they're a little bit lost not sure how 266 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:47,459 to proceed I mean it's it's a huge story 267 00:09:53,210 --> 00:09:50,220 you know this concept that we have been 268 00:09:54,889 --> 00:09:53,220 reverse engineering UFOs and that this 269 00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:54,899 is something that's been hidden from the 270 00:09:59,449 --> 00:09:56,940 American and Global public like how do 271 00:10:01,370 --> 00:09:59,459 you begin to to go into that how do you 272 00:10:03,410 --> 00:10:01,380 begin that if you have not been 273 00:10:04,970 --> 00:10:03,420 accurately reporting it through the 274 00:10:06,650 --> 00:10:04,980 decades how do you do that yeah well 275 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:06,660 it's a steep learning curve let me tell 276 00:10:10,070 --> 00:10:08,160 you you know you got to read you got to 277 00:10:11,810 --> 00:10:10,080 absorb a lot of information separate 278 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:11,820 wheat from chaff there's a learning 279 00:10:16,310 --> 00:10:14,160 process there and it takes time I would 280 00:10:18,350 --> 00:10:16,320 say that members of Congress have done 281 00:10:20,930 --> 00:10:18,360 their homework I mean the the 282 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:20,940 legislation that came out this this past 283 00:10:25,790 --> 00:10:23,760 week or so that was passed by the Senate 284 00:10:29,030 --> 00:10:25,800 intelligence committee is absolutely 285 00:10:31,310 --> 00:10:29,040 extraordinary the the language they have 286 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:31,320 clearly had some coaching and some 287 00:10:35,449 --> 00:10:33,480 insight information maybe Chris Mellon 288 00:10:38,509 --> 00:10:35,459 maybe Dave grosh people like that who 289 00:10:40,610 --> 00:10:38,519 have told them where the stuff is how to 290 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:40,620 find it and given them a lot of language 291 00:10:46,190 --> 00:10:43,680 that uh presumably would help them find 292 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:46,200 this so that the keepers of the secrets 293 00:10:50,569 --> 00:10:48,720 cannot avoid accountability well I'll 294 00:10:52,910 --> 00:10:50,579 tell you something it might not be The 295 00:10:55,610 --> 00:10:52,920 Usual Suspects see that that's the thing 296 00:10:58,250 --> 00:10:55,620 is that the the knowledge base that is 297 00:11:01,430 --> 00:10:58,260 required to create legislation like that 298 00:11:03,050 --> 00:11:01,440 might be through independent research it 299 00:11:05,389 --> 00:11:03,060 might be through individuals that we 300 00:11:07,069 --> 00:11:05,399 don't know their names publicly yet so I 301 00:11:08,930 --> 00:11:07,079 I do think there are people behind the 302 00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:08,940 scene I know that there are people 303 00:11:15,350 --> 00:11:13,440 behind the scenes working to expose what 304 00:11:17,150 --> 00:11:15,360 is at least known to be true at this 305 00:11:19,490 --> 00:11:17,160 time which is that secret programs 306 00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:19,500 dealing with exotic technologies that 307 00:11:22,550 --> 00:11:21,600 are presumed to be not made here on 308 00:11:24,290 --> 00:11:22,560 Earth 309 00:11:25,970 --> 00:11:24,300 let's take a look at this legislation 310 00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:25,980 and some of the wording that's involved 311 00:11:30,530 --> 00:11:28,440 there's a section in this bill that 312 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:30,540 passed the Senate intelligence committee 313 00:11:36,050 --> 00:11:33,360 unanimously by the way since of Congress 314 00:11:38,210 --> 00:11:36,060 it is the sense of Congress that due to 315 00:11:41,449 --> 00:11:38,220 the increasing potential for technology 316 00:11:44,269 --> 00:11:41,459 surprise from foreign adversaries and to 317 00:11:46,850 --> 00:11:44,279 ensure sufficient integration across the 318 00:11:50,030 --> 00:11:46,860 U.S industrial base and avoid technology 319 00:11:52,610 --> 00:11:50,040 and security stove pipes keyword there 320 00:11:55,310 --> 00:11:52,620 the federal government must expand 321 00:11:57,949 --> 00:11:55,320 awareness about any historical exotic 322 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:57,959 technology antecedents previously 323 00:12:01,610 --> 00:12:00,000 provided by the federal government for 324 00:12:03,410 --> 00:12:01,620 research and development purposes 325 00:12:06,670 --> 00:12:03,420 they're talking about special access 326 00:12:09,829 --> 00:12:06,680 programs that presumably have technology 327 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:09,839 column UFOs saucers meta materials 328 00:12:14,030 --> 00:12:12,000 whatever they further indicate that 329 00:12:16,509 --> 00:12:14,040 we're talking about activities involving 330 00:12:19,009 --> 00:12:16,519 unidentified anomalous phenomena 331 00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:19,019 protected under any form of special 332 00:12:24,530 --> 00:12:21,839 access or restricted access limitations 333 00:12:27,530 --> 00:12:24,540 that have not been formally officially 334 00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:27,540 explicitly or specifically described 335 00:12:31,550 --> 00:12:30,000 explained or Justified to the 336 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:31,560 appropriate Committees of Congress 337 00:12:36,110 --> 00:12:34,320 they're trying to to nail it down so you 338 00:12:38,750 --> 00:12:36,120 cannot wiggle out of this the language 339 00:12:40,430 --> 00:12:38,760 that is in this uh this legislation 340 00:12:43,009 --> 00:12:40,440 they're talking about recruiting 341 00:12:45,350 --> 00:12:43,019 employing training equipping and 342 00:12:48,170 --> 00:12:45,360 operations of and providing security for 343 00:12:50,150 --> 00:12:48,180 government or contract personnel with a 344 00:12:52,930 --> 00:12:50,160 primary or secondary mission of 345 00:12:55,730 --> 00:12:52,940 capturing recovering and securing 346 00:12:58,730 --> 00:12:55,740 unidentified anomalous phenomena craft 347 00:13:01,449 --> 00:12:58,740 or pieces or components of such a craft 348 00:13:05,449 --> 00:13:01,459 that is incredible 349 00:13:07,970 --> 00:13:05,459 wording to appear in federal legislation 350 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:07,980 agreed I mean it blows me away yeah 351 00:13:12,710 --> 00:13:10,620 we've come this far yeah I mean they are 352 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:12,720 clearly trying to close what they think 353 00:13:17,389 --> 00:13:14,880 will be loopholes in the attempts by 354 00:13:20,090 --> 00:13:17,399 Whoever has this stuff to continue to 355 00:13:21,650 --> 00:13:20,100 hide it any person currently or formally 356 00:13:23,690 --> 00:13:21,660 under contract with the federal 357 00:13:27,829 --> 00:13:23,700 government that has in their possession 358 00:13:30,050 --> 00:13:27,839 material or information provided by or 359 00:13:32,569 --> 00:13:30,060 derived from the federal government 360 00:13:35,569 --> 00:13:32,579 relating to unidentified anomalous 361 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:35,579 phenomena that formerly or currently is 362 00:13:42,350 --> 00:13:38,639 protected by any form of special access 363 00:13:43,069 --> 00:13:42,360 or restricted access shall check this 364 00:13:46,490 --> 00:13:43,079 out 365 00:13:49,190 --> 00:13:46,500 not later than 60 days after the date of 366 00:13:52,370 --> 00:13:49,200 enactment of this act notify the 367 00:13:55,550 --> 00:13:52,380 director of such possession and not 368 00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:55,560 later than 180 days after the date of 369 00:14:00,590 --> 00:13:57,180 the enactment of this act 370 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:00,600 make available to the director for 371 00:14:08,269 --> 00:14:04,980 assessment analysis and inspection all 372 00:14:11,449 --> 00:14:08,279 such material and information and a 373 00:14:14,990 --> 00:14:11,459 comprehensive list of all non-earth 374 00:14:17,569 --> 00:14:15,000 origin or exotic unidentified anomalous 375 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:17,579 phenomena material 376 00:14:22,910 --> 00:14:19,680 the the last thing 377 00:14:26,930 --> 00:14:22,920 is liability no criminal or civil action 378 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:26,940 May lie or be maintained in any federal 379 00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:29,519 or state court against any person for 380 00:14:34,910 --> 00:14:31,519 receiving material or information 381 00:14:37,250 --> 00:14:34,920 described in subsection d 382 00:14:38,990 --> 00:14:37,260 if that person complies with 383 00:14:41,389 --> 00:14:39,000 notification and Reporting Provisions 384 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:41,399 described in subsection if that person 385 00:14:46,129 --> 00:14:43,920 complies with the notification and 386 00:14:47,629 --> 00:14:46,139 Reporting Provisions described in such 387 00:14:51,530 --> 00:14:47,639 subsection 388 00:14:53,329 --> 00:14:51,540 I mean that legislation is saying we 389 00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:53,339 members of the Senate intelligence 390 00:14:59,030 --> 00:14:55,920 committee believe that there is 391 00:15:02,389 --> 00:14:59,040 extraterrestrial interdimensional exotic 392 00:15:05,150 --> 00:15:02,399 craft of Unknown Origin non-human made 393 00:15:07,009 --> 00:15:05,160 in the possession of either the 394 00:15:09,410 --> 00:15:07,019 government the military or defense 395 00:15:11,930 --> 00:15:09,420 contractors and we want it and and 396 00:15:13,009 --> 00:15:11,940 basically that is a declaration that the 397 00:15:16,670 --> 00:15:13,019 Hunt is on 398 00:15:18,650 --> 00:15:16,680 100 and the coolest thing about it you 399 00:15:23,569 --> 00:15:18,660 have to disclose possession of this 400 00:15:26,689 --> 00:15:23,579 within 60 days you have a 180 days to 401 00:15:29,629 --> 00:15:26,699 show it to actually show it so now look 402 00:15:32,449 --> 00:15:29,639 I I hope this becomes long and I hope 403 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:32,459 it's enforceable law and I hope that 404 00:15:37,730 --> 00:15:35,040 this process works but no matter what 405 00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:37,740 what we're seeing is the screws being 406 00:15:44,689 --> 00:15:41,040 tightened down on 407 00:15:48,129 --> 00:15:44,699 aerospace companies on subcontractors on 408 00:15:51,889 --> 00:15:48,139 retrieval programs to say have you been 409 00:15:54,769 --> 00:15:51,899 given the right to look at exploitation 410 00:15:57,230 --> 00:15:54,779 of UFO technology and if so this is what 411 00:15:59,449 --> 00:15:57,240 you need to do so it's powerful if can 412 00:16:01,370 --> 00:15:59,459 be enacted well let's talk about that 413 00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:01,380 will it pass I mean it's been approved 414 00:16:05,150 --> 00:16:03,120 by the Senate intelligence committee 415 00:16:07,329 --> 00:16:05,160 obviously it would have to pass the full 416 00:16:09,949 --> 00:16:07,339 Senate then it has to pass the house 417 00:16:11,750 --> 00:16:09,959 then President Biden would have to sign 418 00:16:13,790 --> 00:16:11,760 it are any of those things going to 419 00:16:15,889 --> 00:16:13,800 happen you know it looks pretty good 420 00:16:19,129 --> 00:16:15,899 right now but I I would say it's not a 421 00:16:21,710 --> 00:16:19,139 slam dunk at all the Pentagon has 422 00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:21,720 enormous power on Capitol Hill every 423 00:16:26,930 --> 00:16:24,240 Congressman wants to be portrayed as Pro 424 00:16:28,910 --> 00:16:26,940 defense I'm rah-rah I'm right there with 425 00:16:32,090 --> 00:16:28,920 the Pentagon I'm pro strong National 426 00:16:34,430 --> 00:16:32,100 Defense almost all of them have defense 427 00:16:37,550 --> 00:16:34,440 installations or contractors in their 428 00:16:40,129 --> 00:16:37,560 districts so not only can the Pentagon 429 00:16:42,530 --> 00:16:40,139 Lobby members of Congress send it in 430 00:16:44,269 --> 00:16:42,540 house on this year issue but the defense 431 00:16:48,110 --> 00:16:44,279 contractors companies like Lockheed 432 00:16:49,610 --> 00:16:48,120 Martin and Northrop and and saic they 433 00:16:51,170 --> 00:16:49,620 give out a lot of money to members of 434 00:16:54,110 --> 00:16:51,180 Congress they help get them re-elected 435 00:16:56,509 --> 00:16:54,120 that effort to my knowledge has not even 436 00:16:59,150 --> 00:16:56,519 started yet the pushback has not really 437 00:17:02,090 --> 00:16:59,160 begun yet when it happens it's going to 438 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:02,100 be significant uh go ahead yeah I mean 439 00:17:07,309 --> 00:17:05,760 so the way I read this is carrot and 440 00:17:10,250 --> 00:17:07,319 stick this is something that's been 441 00:17:13,309 --> 00:17:10,260 reiterated to me in numerous ways so you 442 00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:13,319 know the the stick is we are turning off 443 00:17:19,010 --> 00:17:16,500 funding for these illegal not properly 444 00:17:20,569 --> 00:17:19,020 reported programs and that's it 445 00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:20,579 you have to acknowledge it and we're 446 00:17:25,010 --> 00:17:21,839 turning it off if you're going to keep 447 00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:25,020 them illegal however the carrot is if we 448 00:17:29,630 --> 00:17:26,880 have if you acknowledge these programs 449 00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:29,640 there's no acquisition regulations 450 00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:32,160 meaning we don't care how or where you 451 00:17:36,110 --> 00:17:34,260 got it if you acknowledge it then we're 452 00:17:38,570 --> 00:17:36,120 going to continue you know to support 453 00:17:40,250 --> 00:17:38,580 this important work 454 00:17:42,409 --> 00:17:40,260 so so that is really cool it's like 455 00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:42,419 carrot and stick the idea that we're 456 00:17:46,669 --> 00:17:44,940 making the stance we're Drawing the Line 457 00:17:48,049 --> 00:17:46,679 in the Sand if if this passes we're 458 00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:48,059 Drawing the Line in the Sand hey 459 00:17:54,169 --> 00:17:51,600 Lockheed you have a recovered UFO from 460 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:54,179 somewhere you've locked it up maybe we 461 00:17:56,990 --> 00:17:55,919 go back to the idea of the Wilson Davis 462 00:17:58,669 --> 00:17:57,000 memo 463 00:18:00,830 --> 00:17:58,679 people that should have authority don't 464 00:18:02,330 --> 00:18:00,840 have authority but if you if you tell us 465 00:18:04,730 --> 00:18:02,340 about it then we're going to continue 466 00:18:07,250 --> 00:18:04,740 helping you fund and maybe even Lockheed 467 00:18:09,169 --> 00:18:07,260 or other companies maybe they're looking 468 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:09,179 for that front door entrance for the 469 00:18:13,850 --> 00:18:12,000 technology maybe they want to make it 470 00:18:16,010 --> 00:18:13,860 official and bring it in through the 471 00:18:18,169 --> 00:18:16,020 front door so they can expand the number 472 00:18:20,330 --> 00:18:18,179 of people researching on it they can 473 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:20,340 write technical papers about it I have a 474 00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:23,280 hunch that there are contractors that 475 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:25,679 would like to see this legalized so 476 00:18:28,970 --> 00:18:26,880 they're not going to get in trouble for 477 00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:28,980 it my wife and I watch a lot of these 478 00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:30,900 cop shows on television these crime 479 00:18:34,490 --> 00:18:33,000 shows and it's always the cops in the 480 00:18:36,650 --> 00:18:34,500 interview room going to the suspect 481 00:18:38,750 --> 00:18:36,660 saying look if you come clean with us 482 00:18:40,970 --> 00:18:38,760 now we'll give you a break although that 483 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:40,980 doesn't always happen but if you lie to 484 00:18:45,470 --> 00:18:42,960 us the hammer comes down that's what's 485 00:18:47,090 --> 00:18:45,480 Happening Here look if you 486 00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:47,100 um aerospace companies and you've got 487 00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:48,720 flying saucers hidden in a hangar 488 00:18:53,570 --> 00:18:51,840 somewhere tell us now and we won't hold 489 00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:53,580 you accountable for it we won't punish 490 00:18:57,890 --> 00:18:55,919 you but if you don't uh that you're 491 00:19:01,610 --> 00:18:57,900 going to be in trouble uh here's the 492 00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:01,620 thing is is there a case to be made that 493 00:19:06,529 --> 00:19:03,600 exposing what we've called the goodies 494 00:19:09,049 --> 00:19:06,539 should not be done and I said in this 495 00:19:12,409 --> 00:19:09,059 context is you know people that we know 496 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:12,419 high up people 497 00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:14,880 um almost universally believed that 498 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:17,340 total disclosure is a bad idea 499 00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:19,260 it is intrinsic there are National 500 00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:21,480 Security implications that are intrinsic 501 00:19:25,310 --> 00:19:23,460 to this this is technology that would 502 00:19:28,130 --> 00:19:25,320 change the world that would change the 503 00:19:30,409 --> 00:19:28,140 military balance in in the world if we 504 00:19:32,930 --> 00:19:30,419 could successfully reverse engineer it 505 00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:32,940 we've had this stuff for decades 506 00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:35,039 um limited success in trying to 507 00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:37,260 duplicate the technology with Earth 508 00:19:42,409 --> 00:19:39,960 means and earth materials but if that 509 00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:42,419 breakthrough could be made it would be 510 00:19:46,909 --> 00:19:44,880 enormously important for the world 511 00:19:49,130 --> 00:19:46,919 it's important that we get it and not 512 00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:49,140 Russia or China or some other adversary 513 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:52,799 but that's that's the primary premise of 514 00:19:56,450 --> 00:19:54,960 why the secrecy has taken place for so 515 00:19:58,610 --> 00:19:56,460 long and I don't know how you get around 516 00:20:00,529 --> 00:19:58,620 it let's talk about that for a second 517 00:20:02,210 --> 00:20:00,539 because I am not one of those people 518 00:20:04,909 --> 00:20:02,220 that think that our world would 519 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:04,919 instantaneously be revolutionized by the 520 00:20:09,950 --> 00:20:08,220 Technologies uh that we have allegedly 521 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:09,960 recovered and have been reverse 522 00:20:13,850 --> 00:20:12,000 engineering what I mean by that is a lot 523 00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:13,860 of people like to say well you know free 524 00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:16,100 energy like instantly the whole 525 00:20:19,730 --> 00:20:18,480 structure infrastructure fossil fuels 526 00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:19,740 would go down and people would lose 527 00:20:25,130 --> 00:20:21,120 money and they're fighting against that 528 00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:25,140 I just I don't see that and here's why I 529 00:20:28,430 --> 00:20:26,400 I don't think it would change things 530 00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:28,440 overnight I think that whatever 531 00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:30,660 Technologies can be derived from these 532 00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:32,940 acquisition programs that it would take 533 00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:35,640 a a great deal of Material Science in 534 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:37,260 order to replicate them and as we know 535 00:20:41,150 --> 00:20:38,940 all the way back from babazar back in 536 00:20:43,250 --> 00:20:41,160 the day believe him or not believe him 537 00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:43,260 what he said is becoming much more 538 00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:45,360 relevant these days with what we're 539 00:20:51,049 --> 00:20:48,960 learning what he said was that we have 540 00:20:54,169 --> 00:20:51,059 no way of replicating these Technologies 541 00:20:56,029 --> 00:20:54,179 the material science alone is the 542 00:20:58,669 --> 00:20:56,039 limiting factor it's kind of the speed 543 00:21:01,310 --> 00:20:58,679 of light when it comes to to this topic 544 00:21:03,950 --> 00:21:01,320 but guess what he's not the only one 545 00:21:06,169 --> 00:21:03,960 that said that to us I mean 546 00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:06,179 almost across the board people involved 547 00:21:09,890 --> 00:21:07,980 with this have said the number one thing 548 00:21:11,690 --> 00:21:09,900 that stopped us is we can't properly 549 00:21:13,490 --> 00:21:11,700 replicate the power source that's what 550 00:21:14,930 --> 00:21:13,500 said to me over and over and over again 551 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:14,940 I don't know what to make of that 552 00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:17,760 completely I got some theories but I 553 00:21:21,169 --> 00:21:19,440 mean if that's the case now back to your 554 00:21:22,610 --> 00:21:21,179 point George you were you're basically 555 00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:22,620 saying 556 00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:24,720 should this be out because we have 557 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:26,880 talked to a lot of people in position to 558 00:21:31,070 --> 00:21:29,340 know that are against what we call 559 00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:31,080 disclosure what some people call 560 00:21:36,770 --> 00:21:33,480 disclosure keep a disclosure of what 561 00:21:39,409 --> 00:21:36,780 like as Lazar has said 562 00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:39,419 whose job is it to to not let people 563 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:41,880 know the fundamental nature of reality 564 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:44,640 that we live in sure some things could 565 00:21:48,529 --> 00:21:46,500 be weaponized but look we've 566 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:48,539 acknowledged the atomic bomb program 567 00:21:52,610 --> 00:21:50,520 we've acknowledged the nuclear programs 568 00:21:55,250 --> 00:21:52,620 we don't teach people how to make 569 00:21:57,770 --> 00:21:55,260 nuclear bombs we've acknowledged it so 570 00:22:00,430 --> 00:21:57,780 I'm kind of like in this limbo where I'm 571 00:22:03,529 --> 00:22:00,440 like the fundamentals should be told 572 00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:03,539 Secrets should be kept but where is that 573 00:22:07,010 --> 00:22:05,400 that in the middle place where we can 574 00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:07,020 get the basic information out to the 575 00:22:10,730 --> 00:22:09,480 public if true and protect National 576 00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:10,740 Security 577 00:22:15,529 --> 00:22:13,020 among the things that we do not know is 578 00:22:17,690 --> 00:22:15,539 we do not know of all the people who 579 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:17,700 have met behind closed doors with the 580 00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,640 Congressional members and staff we don't 581 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,280 know who if anyone has made the argument 582 00:22:27,950 --> 00:22:25,440 that disclosure is not a good idea and 583 00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:27,960 here are the consequences if we disclose 584 00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:30,480 it can you have partial disclosure it's 585 00:22:35,870 --> 00:22:32,880 like partial pregnancy uh let's say 586 00:22:38,029 --> 00:22:35,880 Marco Rubio convinces the Pentagon or 587 00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:38,039 Lockheed Martin let me into the hangar 588 00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:40,200 let me see the craft oh there's the 589 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:43,200 bodies he gets to see that with his own 590 00:22:48,169 --> 00:22:45,600 eyes and then goes back in what he can 591 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,179 he say it what can Congress reveal to us 592 00:22:52,370 --> 00:22:50,400 can they say we've got this we've been 593 00:22:54,409 --> 00:22:52,380 working on this for a long time we're 594 00:22:56,450 --> 00:22:54,419 trying to make advances tell the world 595 00:22:58,669 --> 00:22:56,460 about it because there are significant 596 00:23:00,890 --> 00:22:58,679 ramifications to that what it tells our 597 00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,900 adversaries about how much progress we 598 00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:02,640 have made on it the fact that we've got 599 00:23:07,549 --> 00:23:04,940 the stuff that they may or may not have 600 00:23:09,950 --> 00:23:07,559 what is the reaction to the public we 601 00:23:11,570 --> 00:23:09,960 think we're ready to know but are we 602 00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:11,580 because we don't don't know what the 603 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,820 bottom line is I I hear you and I also 604 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:16,320 know that a lot of people we have talked 605 00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:18,960 with have cautioned us that there is 606 00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:21,720 some truth some deeper truth that 607 00:23:27,289 --> 00:23:24,960 shouldn't be widely publicly known I 608 00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:27,299 think it's like I 609 00:23:31,850 --> 00:23:29,340 honestly I want to know what you think 610 00:23:33,649 --> 00:23:31,860 George now what do you think I think 611 00:23:36,049 --> 00:23:33,659 you're playing both sides here do you 612 00:23:38,090 --> 00:23:36,059 think the public should know about 613 00:23:40,730 --> 00:23:38,100 whatever the reality might be about this 614 00:23:42,649 --> 00:23:40,740 do you think well it is my job to let 615 00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:42,659 the public know and I've worked for 35 616 00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:45,000 years to let the public know but at the 617 00:23:49,850 --> 00:23:47,400 end of the day I'm not sure that that is 618 00:23:51,950 --> 00:23:49,860 a good idea I really am not and I'm torn 619 00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:51,960 over it and it messes with my head but 620 00:23:57,230 --> 00:23:55,140 the fact is that we don't know what the 621 00:23:59,270 --> 00:23:57,240 ultimate effect of revealing this stuff 622 00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:59,280 will be I don't think you can go part 623 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,480 way 624 00:24:03,529 --> 00:24:02,159 um if if we've got bodies in craft 625 00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:03,539 people are going to want to see it 626 00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,000 they're going to see uh pictures of it 627 00:24:09,950 --> 00:24:07,919 video of it they're going to see want to 628 00:24:12,110 --> 00:24:09,960 see analysis of it there's no way you 629 00:24:14,029 --> 00:24:12,120 can tell them yeah it's real and the 630 00:24:15,890 --> 00:24:14,039 public will be satisfied and move on to 631 00:24:18,409 --> 00:24:15,900 something else you know we we did not 632 00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:18,419 know uh so much we don't know 633 00:24:22,370 --> 00:24:20,280 um we haven't seen pushback in the media 634 00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:22,380 yet a little bit here and there but it's 635 00:24:27,890 --> 00:24:25,260 coming you know we've seen journalists 636 00:24:30,409 --> 00:24:27,900 Pummel and pound on people like Dave 637 00:24:32,450 --> 00:24:30,419 grush Eric Davis and others who've come 638 00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,460 forward with information who put their 639 00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:35,039 careers on the line and and and probably 640 00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:36,720 their personal safety to go ahead and 641 00:24:40,850 --> 00:24:38,760 tell Congress behind closed doors that 642 00:24:42,529 --> 00:24:40,860 this stuff is real they've done it at 643 00:24:45,470 --> 00:24:42,539 Great risk and they've got nothing but 644 00:24:47,390 --> 00:24:45,480 grief for it but the real big Push by 645 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,400 the New York Times by The Wall Street 646 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:49,440 Journal by folks like that has still not 647 00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:50,820 been launched and I think it's coming 648 00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:52,980 you know but I want to get clear would 649 00:24:56,810 --> 00:24:54,960 you ever hide from the global and 650 00:24:58,909 --> 00:24:56,820 American public if you found out the 651 00:25:00,350 --> 00:24:58,919 absolute 100 truth or what George Knapp 652 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:00,360 would you report on it I don't know 653 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,320 really I don't know I mean I've grappled 654 00:25:08,510 --> 00:25:05,760 with that question let's say somebody 655 00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,520 comes to you and says all right we can 656 00:25:12,770 --> 00:25:10,320 tell you you can come in and see it you 657 00:25:14,810 --> 00:25:12,780 will let you into Area 51 there it is 658 00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:14,820 but the on the condition that you can 659 00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:16,980 never report it 660 00:25:21,409 --> 00:25:19,200 that's a tough question oh you're gonna 661 00:25:23,450 --> 00:25:21,419 light the internet on fire right now 662 00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:23,460 every troll in the game I'd like to know 663 00:25:28,190 --> 00:25:25,260 I mean if the cost of it is that I can't 664 00:25:29,690 --> 00:25:28,200 tell anybody about it you know it's a 665 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:29,700 tough question yeah okay so let me let 666 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:31,440 me reverse that a little bit so because 667 00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,260 as a journalist if you found out nobody 668 00:25:39,049 --> 00:25:36,480 put restrictions on you would you tell 669 00:25:41,890 --> 00:25:39,059 the public yeah I mean my inclination is 670 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:41,900 of course yeah but let's say somebody 671 00:25:48,049 --> 00:25:44,640 makes a case to me that this is a really 672 00:25:50,210 --> 00:25:48,059 bad idea and here's why uh it puts our 673 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,220 security at risk because it tells Russia 674 00:25:55,730 --> 00:25:53,039 where we are it tells China where we are 675 00:25:58,130 --> 00:25:55,740 there's no transparency movement in 676 00:26:00,289 --> 00:25:58,140 Russia there's no disclosure movement in 677 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:00,299 China we know that those countries have 678 00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:02,220 this same stuff and are trying to figure 679 00:26:07,010 --> 00:26:04,500 it out I think it puts us at a 680 00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,020 disadvantage a strategic uh National 681 00:26:12,350 --> 00:26:09,120 Security disadvantage for us to go ahead 682 00:26:14,269 --> 00:26:12,360 and open this stuff up although I'd like 683 00:26:15,890 --> 00:26:14,279 to know and I'd like it to happen you 684 00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:15,900 know I I just think 685 00:26:20,090 --> 00:26:18,120 we're not hearing that side of it and I 686 00:26:22,730 --> 00:26:20,100 hope that somebody has talked to 687 00:26:24,830 --> 00:26:22,740 Congress behind closed doors about where 688 00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,840 this could lead right you got to give me 689 00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:26,640 a reason otherwise I'm going to lie to 690 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:28,740 match and burn the whole house down you 691 00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:31,260 got to tell me why this is something 692 00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,720 that isn't something we should report on 693 00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:35,520 like if we get you know some sort of 694 00:26:39,649 --> 00:26:37,919 definitive knowledge in some way man I 695 00:26:42,049 --> 00:26:39,659 don't know I'm just I'm being honest 696 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,059 right now I I'd Light It Up 697 00:26:47,149 --> 00:26:44,400 what if it turns out that aliens made us 698 00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:47,159 that space aliens have been manipulating 699 00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:49,260 our DNA that we are a lab experiment 700 00:26:52,669 --> 00:26:50,580 what if it turns out that 701 00:26:55,310 --> 00:26:52,679 interdimensional beings are like Santa 702 00:26:57,049 --> 00:26:55,320 Claus they know when you you've been bad 703 00:26:59,210 --> 00:26:57,059 or good they know when you're sleeping 704 00:27:01,130 --> 00:26:59,220 they watch you in the shower when you're 705 00:27:02,930 --> 00:27:01,140 in bed at your most private moment 706 00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:02,940 sitting on the toilet that they're 707 00:27:07,010 --> 00:27:04,860 always among us that they can come in 708 00:27:09,649 --> 00:27:07,020 and out of our world uh that they 709 00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:09,659 control our world on a mass scale and 710 00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:11,700 there's nothing we can do about it uh 711 00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,740 are people ready to handle that it's not 712 00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:16,080 my job to decide if people are ready to 713 00:27:19,970 --> 00:27:18,000 handle that I you know I say bring it on 714 00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:19,980 what else you got 715 00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:23,039 yeah yeah I I don't know I mean but um 716 00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,320 I'm just saying that I hope that 717 00:27:28,970 --> 00:27:27,120 somewhere along the line as Congress is 718 00:27:30,769 --> 00:27:28,980 considering this that they take that 719 00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:30,779 into consideration the other part of it 720 00:27:35,390 --> 00:27:33,900 is let's say Marco Rubio senator gilbrev 721 00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:35,400 they get the tour they go into the 722 00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:36,960 hangar they see the stuff 723 00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:38,940 what do we know about what they can tell 724 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:41,640 us right because just because they get 725 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,380 the information under this legislation 726 00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:45,360 does not mean they have to tell the rest 727 00:27:48,769 --> 00:27:47,460 of us right um and and you know there 728 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,779 are there's some really interesting 729 00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:50,880 language and as I said before I think 730 00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:53,039 they had some great coaching from Chris 731 00:27:57,769 --> 00:27:55,559 Bell and LU Elizondo Dave Crush people 732 00:28:00,890 --> 00:27:57,779 like that sure about how to develop this 733 00:28:03,049 --> 00:28:00,900 this uh language but it's clever you 734 00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,059 know there are some clever loopholes uh 735 00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:05,279 you know who has this stuff where is it 736 00:28:09,769 --> 00:28:07,740 uh is there a chain of custody that 737 00:28:11,930 --> 00:28:09,779 shows that the crash retrieval stuff 738 00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:11,940 other than Roswell belonged to the US 739 00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:13,980 government and then we handed it over to 740 00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,799 a private company is there uh is there a 741 00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:18,720 documentation Trail is there a money 742 00:28:23,630 --> 00:28:20,580 Trail there are references in this 743 00:28:25,549 --> 00:28:23,640 documentation in the legislation to hey 744 00:28:27,230 --> 00:28:25,559 we're going to cut off the money 745 00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:27,240 um you know if if you guys don't comply 746 00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:29,820 with this do we know for sure that there 747 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,100 are special access programs controlling 748 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:34,559 this material the bodies the craft 749 00:28:39,409 --> 00:28:36,960 whatever that is funded by the taxpayers 750 00:28:42,409 --> 00:28:39,419 I don't know I mean we think that that's 751 00:28:44,029 --> 00:28:42,419 true do we know how many uh of these 752 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:44,039 crash retrievals assuming there are 753 00:28:47,690 --> 00:28:45,600 multiple and we believe that's the case 754 00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:47,700 how many of them were retrieved by say 755 00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:50,820 Lockheed or uh saic instead of the US 756 00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:52,799 Military and the US government are there 757 00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:55,320 subcontractors who did this stuff for 758 00:28:58,610 --> 00:28:57,539 the military then handed over to another 759 00:29:01,130 --> 00:28:58,620 company 760 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:01,140 that they have so many layers of these 761 00:29:05,330 --> 00:29:02,880 special access programs 762 00:29:07,490 --> 00:29:05,340 Congress can sniff around about it but 763 00:29:11,149 --> 00:29:07,500 really penetrating that world 764 00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,159 by passing this legislation you might in 765 00:29:16,730 --> 00:29:13,919 effect Force this into an even deeper 766 00:29:19,610 --> 00:29:16,740 blacker hole than it is now oh that's 767 00:29:21,950 --> 00:29:19,620 dark man I hope not no but I I feel you 768 00:29:24,409 --> 00:29:21,960 I mean from the people that created the 769 00:29:26,570 --> 00:29:24,419 language and wrote this I think it's 770 00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:26,580 it's a real it's an attempt to pop the 771 00:29:30,590 --> 00:29:28,620 balloon it's attempt to jump into gut 772 00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:30,600 this thing but you're right there are a 773 00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,580 lot of things that could go wrong so the 774 00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:34,799 the idea that we know there are shell 775 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:36,840 companies for organizations like CIA 776 00:29:41,090 --> 00:29:39,120 right that didn't sequester that money 777 00:29:43,310 --> 00:29:41,100 over and then they they have their own 778 00:29:44,930 --> 00:29:43,320 organization to go in and do retrievals 779 00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:44,940 or something like that let's pretend 780 00:29:49,010 --> 00:29:46,799 that's the truth so something like that 781 00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:49,020 right so then you wouldn't have the 782 00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:51,120 direct ability to shut off money because 783 00:29:54,049 --> 00:29:52,380 you don't even know where that money is 784 00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:54,059 going over to in the first place so I I 785 00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:56,340 get it there's tons of problems but this 786 00:30:02,090 --> 00:30:00,000 is a huge leap for what we're trying to 787 00:30:04,190 --> 00:30:02,100 understand with this subject this is a 788 00:30:07,010 --> 00:30:04,200 huge uh Arrow that's being shot 789 00:30:08,990 --> 00:30:07,020 absolutely totally agree I'm just saying 790 00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,000 that the people people who live in this 791 00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:11,279 world they navigated so much better than 792 00:30:14,750 --> 00:30:13,020 we do and so you could have really great 793 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:14,760 language like they've crafted in this 794 00:30:18,769 --> 00:30:17,520 bill that still provides some wiggle 795 00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:18,779 room all right you're looking for 796 00:30:23,450 --> 00:30:21,539 non-human technology something that is 797 00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:23,460 exotic something that is foreign 798 00:30:27,470 --> 00:30:24,899 unidentified 799 00:30:29,570 --> 00:30:27,480 um you know you could uh the companies 800 00:30:31,789 --> 00:30:29,580 that have this material assuming that 801 00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:31,799 it's a private company they don't know 802 00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:33,720 the origin they can't say it's non-human 803 00:30:37,610 --> 00:30:35,460 they don't know where it came from so 804 00:30:39,769 --> 00:30:37,620 the the dance and the gymnastics of 805 00:30:42,110 --> 00:30:39,779 language I've seen a journalist friend 806 00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:42,120 of ours Chris sharp with the Liberation 807 00:30:45,769 --> 00:30:44,100 times he's really dug into this he's 808 00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,779 like trying to figure out the 809 00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:47,520 terminology so you haven't found 810 00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:49,860 evidence of extraterrestrial but how 811 00:30:54,830 --> 00:30:52,140 about non-human how about of Unknown 812 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,840 Origin and the types of responses I 813 00:30:58,490 --> 00:30:56,159 think it's okay to say that he's 814 00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,500 receiving at this time is like well you 815 00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,960 define Unknown Origin 816 00:31:05,570 --> 00:31:03,120 I Define it like it's like so there's 817 00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:05,580 this gamesmanship right now of what is 818 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:07,679 in the in the Press world the pr world 819 00:31:12,409 --> 00:31:10,980 you know trying to get people boxed in 820 00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:12,419 when they're doing things like making 821 00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:14,340 requests for information that is really 822 00:31:20,450 --> 00:31:17,820 tricky stuff uh look people involved in 823 00:31:23,870 --> 00:31:20,460 this I I personally know people involved 824 00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:23,880 in this are concerned by 825 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:26,580 they are concerned for their safety 826 00:31:29,870 --> 00:31:28,980 some people are very concerned for their 827 00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:29,880 safety 828 00:31:34,669 --> 00:31:32,940 and we know Rubio and we know the gang 829 00:31:36,350 --> 00:31:34,679 at eight we know that the Senate 830 00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:36,360 intelligence committee are taking those 831 00:31:41,389 --> 00:31:38,940 concerns seriously now what does that 832 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,399 even mean like that's so crazy to me the 833 00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:43,440 idea that people who are in active 834 00:31:47,630 --> 00:31:45,000 positions within intelligence 835 00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:47,640 organizations or let's just say whatever 836 00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:49,679 other organizations 837 00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:52,740 that they are concerned about speaking 838 00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,360 even though they're being asked to come 839 00:32:00,110 --> 00:31:56,399 and talk about this and people have 840 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:00,120 concern that Dr Sean Kirkpatrick 841 00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:03,299 reporting back to Congress isn't going 842 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,100 to be transparent like a lot of people 843 00:32:08,930 --> 00:32:07,440 are not going forward to Arrow because 844 00:32:11,149 --> 00:32:08,940 they're worried that they don't know if 845 00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:11,159 he's on the level to be straight that's 846 00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:13,020 that's what people think how do they 847 00:32:15,289 --> 00:32:14,460 prove it to people that they're on the 848 00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:15,299 level 849 00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:18,000 I'm not sure they can at this point I 850 00:32:23,690 --> 00:32:19,860 mean the the signals that they've been 851 00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:23,700 sending so far are decidedly mixed we 852 00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:26,039 know people in that whistleblower World 853 00:32:29,570 --> 00:32:27,480 there aren't a whole lot of them there 854 00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:29,580 are some and they are very concerned 855 00:32:33,409 --> 00:32:31,320 about the direction that Arrow has shown 856 00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:33,419 the statements that Sean Kirkpatrick has 857 00:32:38,510 --> 00:32:35,460 made in public I've seen no credible 858 00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:38,520 evidence of this or that uh that is uh 859 00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:40,380 incredibly discouraging I would think to 860 00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,539 people who are ready to put their lives 861 00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:44,399 and careers on the line to come forward 862 00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:46,620 I'd have to think twice if I had a 863 00:32:49,789 --> 00:32:48,059 family I'd have to think twice about it 864 00:32:53,090 --> 00:32:49,799 so let's break it down for people so 865 00:32:56,330 --> 00:32:53,100 you've got people who are coming forward 866 00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,340 to Arrow who say I have personally 867 00:33:00,889 --> 00:32:58,799 worked on this stuff this is where the 868 00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:00,899 holding facility for this craft or this 869 00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:05,159 technology is uh I have personally held 870 00:33:10,130 --> 00:33:08,039 it I have worked on it durationally for 871 00:33:11,810 --> 00:33:10,140 years some of them and then they see 872 00:33:14,509 --> 00:33:11,820 these public statements by Dr 873 00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:14,519 Kirkpatrick and they're like what the 874 00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:16,740 yeah so that is a discouraging 875 00:33:20,029 --> 00:33:18,299 thing for some of these whistleblowers 876 00:33:22,009 --> 00:33:20,039 or some of these people that are that 877 00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,019 have been asked to come forward you know 878 00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:24,000 somebody who's really been pushing the 879 00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:25,980 edge of the envelope in the house is 880 00:33:31,070 --> 00:33:29,220 Gallagher uh this guy we saw him at that 881 00:33:33,409 --> 00:33:31,080 that first public hearing where he just 882 00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:33,419 came out blazing he'd obviously done his 883 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:35,940 his homework but he's subsequently made 884 00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,340 recent comments as well where he you 885 00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:40,559 know he he clearly knows this issue 886 00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:43,500 inside and out representative Gallagher 887 00:33:48,769 --> 00:33:46,380 is a champion when it comes to the UFO 888 00:33:50,509 --> 00:33:48,779 transparency this is a guy that I think 889 00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:50,519 spends a lot of his time dealing with 890 00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:53,039 the kind of adversarial attempts by 891 00:33:57,769 --> 00:33:55,440 China so this is something he he heads a 892 00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:57,779 committee he is one of these kind of 893 00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,480 America First like let's do this kind of 894 00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:02,880 guys and to see him talk about the UAP 895 00:34:08,030 --> 00:34:05,580 issue so openly the other day he was on 896 00:34:10,490 --> 00:34:08,040 a podcast and I was just watching it 897 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:10,500 thinking man this guy is a champ twice a 898 00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:11,760 year and they have to give us a 899 00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:14,040 classified briefing and once a year they 900 00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,599 have to do an unclassified briefing 901 00:34:18,889 --> 00:34:17,280 usually when we get these unclassified 902 00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,899 briefings in written or in sport conform 903 00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:20,399 they're unsatisfied they don't really go 904 00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,839 into the details so I think once we've 905 00:34:24,349 --> 00:34:23,280 compiled all this information and 906 00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:24,359 there's other stuff we have to do we're 907 00:34:27,530 --> 00:34:25,980 going to pass hopefully another piece of 908 00:34:28,909 --> 00:34:27,540 legislation that Rubio is doing in the 909 00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:28,919 Senate and I'll do in the house which 910 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:31,740 basically says if you are part of any 911 00:34:36,889 --> 00:34:34,560 reverse engineering crashed exotic 912 00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:36,899 materials recovery program you are not 913 00:34:41,089 --> 00:34:38,820 allowed to access any government dollars 914 00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:41,099 but we'll offer you amnesty to come 915 00:34:44,690 --> 00:34:43,260 forward and report to us because the 916 00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:44,700 claim that Dave grosh and others are 917 00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:47,820 making is that these programs exist and 918 00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:49,619 they're in violation of the law because 919 00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:51,179 Congress is unaware of them so we have 920 00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:53,460 to smoke that out in order just to 921 00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:55,260 examine that claim and I think if we 922 00:34:59,390 --> 00:34:57,480 have a better body of evidence then we 923 00:35:01,609 --> 00:34:59,400 could come forward with it I am in favor 924 00:35:03,230 --> 00:35:01,619 of transparency on this I think the 925 00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:03,240 American people I think that's gonna be 926 00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:06,180 a shock Factor though yeah that's gonna 927 00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:07,740 up a lot of it's not the worst 928 00:35:12,050 --> 00:35:09,480 case scenario though think about I would 929 00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,060 actually depending on uh what the 930 00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:15,359 intention of the aliens are if indeed it 931 00:35:18,109 --> 00:35:16,560 is extraterrestrial and last time I was 932 00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:18,119 here we went through all the different 933 00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:19,560 hypotheses right to include the 934 00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:22,079 Terminator hypothesis from the future if 935 00:35:25,069 --> 00:35:23,400 it maybe it is potentially Time 936 00:35:26,510 --> 00:35:25,079 Travelers or whatever which would be 937 00:35:28,609 --> 00:35:26,520 crazy that would be absolutely crazy 938 00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,619 yeah probably that orange Globe yeah the 939 00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:31,200 portal yeah we all saw that but if it 940 00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:33,000 was which some people just try to write 941 00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:34,980 it off as and I know AJ and all the boys 942 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:37,140 have questions I apologize here but if 943 00:35:40,730 --> 00:35:38,640 they were to write it off as foreign 944 00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,740 threat that in my opinion could be the 945 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,720 worst case scenario if it's China or 946 00:35:47,089 --> 00:35:44,640 Russia and they have advanced technology 947 00:35:48,410 --> 00:35:47,099 that we can't even sniff right and we 948 00:35:50,030 --> 00:35:48,420 can't even understand the physics of it 949 00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:50,040 I mean so many things are going Mach 5 950 00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:51,960 and changing direction but if it was 951 00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:53,160 them they would already use that right 952 00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:55,260 in What scenario that we haven't fought 953 00:35:58,430 --> 00:35:57,000 you know a force on force great power 954 00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,440 conflict with either I mean we get 955 00:36:01,310 --> 00:36:00,240 basically involved in the proxy war in 956 00:36:02,690 --> 00:36:01,320 Ukraine right now but we haven't gone 957 00:36:05,690 --> 00:36:02,700 the chat last time Chinese fought a war 958 00:36:07,490 --> 00:36:05,700 was 79 against the Vietnamese didn't end 959 00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:07,500 well for them so they sent the balloon 960 00:36:10,130 --> 00:36:08,880 over to say this is what you guys got 961 00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:10,140 yeah that's so that's the other thing 962 00:36:13,490 --> 00:36:11,940 that's happened right so in addition to 963 00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:13,500 people coming out of the wood work 964 00:36:17,870 --> 00:36:15,900 people going public uh to the media with 965 00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:17,880 their reports we had four 966 00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,640 balloons shot down over North America 967 00:36:23,210 --> 00:36:22,079 which I don't remember last time that's 968 00:36:25,069 --> 00:36:23,220 ever happened now one of these the 969 00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:25,079 Chinese spy balloon we've been briefed 970 00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,359 on but the other three 971 00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,760 there's stuff appearing on our training 972 00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:31,680 ranges and we don't understand where 973 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:33,180 it's coming from so as someone who 974 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,800 focuses on defense and the defense 975 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:36,480 competition with China we have to figure 976 00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:37,680 that out we have we have to be able to 977 00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:38,760 control our Rangers otherwise you're 978 00:36:41,569 --> 00:36:40,260 putting that's why you're so passionate 979 00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:41,579 behind in Jeopardy right that was my 980 00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:43,140 entry point into it and also now I'm 981 00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:44,640 just curious about answering the 982 00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:45,960 question I think there's actually a 983 00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:48,540 bigger issue too of people losing trust 984 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,040 in government trusts and institutions 985 00:36:53,810 --> 00:36:52,320 this should be an opportunity for the 986 00:36:56,089 --> 00:36:53,820 government to be transparent if we have 987 00:36:57,770 --> 00:36:56,099 information that disconfirms the UAP 988 00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:57,780 hypo the uh the Extraterrestrial 989 00:37:00,290 --> 00:36:59,280 hypothesis or all these other ones at 990 00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:00,300 least shows the government doing 991 00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:01,980 something competent and being 992 00:37:05,089 --> 00:37:03,780 forward-leaning by declassifying 993 00:37:07,069 --> 00:37:05,099 information to the public so for those 994 00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:07,079 two reasons alone I think it's worthy of 995 00:37:11,390 --> 00:37:09,540 investigation and the third one that I'm 996 00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:11,400 probably most interested in is whether 997 00:37:15,230 --> 00:37:13,260 it's adversary technology particularly 998 00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,240 China so I chair the select committee on 999 00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:17,040 the Chinese Communist party in the house 1000 00:37:20,569 --> 00:37:18,720 and we're in charge of developing a 1001 00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:20,579 comprehensive strategy for how we beat 1002 00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:22,740 the CCP over the long term that to me is 1003 00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,900 the biggest national security issue 1004 00:37:28,670 --> 00:37:26,400 that's what I'm in charge into the house 1005 00:37:31,730 --> 00:37:28,680 and this is a small subset of that 1006 00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,740 overall effort if it's adversary I think 1007 00:37:35,089 --> 00:37:32,880 actually the biggest source of 1008 00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:35,099 resistance is just people it's almost 1009 00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:36,300 like they're embarrassed to talk about 1010 00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:37,740 the topic right they think they're going 1011 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,200 to be labeled a crazy info hat 1012 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:42,240 conspiracy theories got it Looney Tunes 1013 00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:43,440 person so just by having these 1014 00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:44,520 discussions out in the open I think it 1015 00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:45,780 goes a long way and most of the 1016 00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:47,460 resistance is just from the bureaucracy 1017 00:37:51,470 --> 00:37:49,980 in the defense department and in the 1018 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,480 intelligence Community I have about five 1019 00:37:55,250 --> 00:37:53,280 requests right now of the intelligence 1020 00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:55,260 Community things they owe me to come 1021 00:37:59,210 --> 00:37:57,599 back on related to UAP stuff and they're 1022 00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:59,220 deficient on all these requests so that 1023 00:38:02,329 --> 00:38:00,240 might not come for what a year or two 1024 00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:02,339 years six months maybe I mean so that 1025 00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:04,500 historical report is due next summer and 1026 00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:05,640 I my understanding is I haven't even 1027 00:38:08,089 --> 00:38:06,960 started drafting it right now so the 1028 00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,099 other hypothesis we didn't talk about 1029 00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:10,560 last time is that this could as opposed 1030 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,260 to being uh us from the future it could 1031 00:38:18,109 --> 00:38:14,880 actually be an ancient civilization 1032 00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:18,119 that's just been hiding here for all 1033 00:38:22,370 --> 00:38:19,680 this time like transforming and it's 1034 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:22,380 suddenly showing itself right now so 1035 00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:24,480 this guy what what he's done 1036 00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:28,020 um Congressman Gallagher is he has put 1037 00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,480 the Wilson Davis memo in Congressional 1038 00:38:36,109 --> 00:38:33,119 Record he did so with knowledge he did 1039 00:38:37,790 --> 00:38:36,119 so eloquently and additionally I don't 1040 00:38:40,670 --> 00:38:37,800 think this last we hear of him on this 1041 00:38:44,329 --> 00:38:40,680 topic no I'm certain that's that's true 1042 00:38:46,849 --> 00:38:44,339 uh the uh his his uh Blood Brother in 1043 00:38:49,069 --> 00:38:46,859 the in the house is Virgin Tim Burton 1044 00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:49,079 our our pal right you talk to him a lot 1045 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:51,180 yeah yeah I don't know if they're if 1046 00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:52,740 they're friends or anything but I will 1047 00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,300 say this is that uh Tim birchett 1048 00:39:01,970 --> 00:38:58,560 representative Timber Congressman Tim 1049 00:39:05,329 --> 00:39:01,980 Burton uh man he is like a dog with a 1050 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,339 bone he wants to uncover what has been 1051 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,920 covered up and I respect that and he is 1052 00:39:10,849 --> 00:39:09,119 fighting for it I think we're going to 1053 00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:10,859 talk more about that on an upcoming 1054 00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:13,320 episode but yeah he is really fighting 1055 00:39:18,290 --> 00:39:15,720 for the people on this one yeah let me 1056 00:39:21,530 --> 00:39:18,300 uh just throw one more uh issue into the 1057 00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:21,540 mix is the the most basic uh one of the 1058 00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:23,760 most basic motivations in this whole 1059 00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:27,000 thing is money so let's say this 1060 00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:29,880 technology exists it's exotic it's World 1061 00:39:34,849 --> 00:39:32,400 transforming its potential is enormous 1062 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:34,859 both on a national security perspective 1063 00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,160 but also on a financial perspective if 1064 00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,320 you were a an aerospace company that had 1065 00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:42,000 a flying saucer and you've been working 1066 00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,920 on it for 30 40 years trying to 1067 00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:46,079 duplicate this technology do you want to 1068 00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:47,880 give that up because I wouldn't I 1069 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:49,320 wouldn't want my stockholders wouldn't 1070 00:39:53,630 --> 00:39:51,599 want me to I'd do it anything I could to 1071 00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:53,640 hang on to it to try to figure it out 1072 00:39:57,410 --> 00:39:54,960 because if you were to make that 1073 00:39:59,210 --> 00:39:57,420 breakthrough it changes the world in so 1074 00:40:01,370 --> 00:39:59,220 many ways it changes the National 1075 00:40:03,530 --> 00:40:01,380 Security balance but it also changes 1076 00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:03,540 your financial portfolio your financial 1077 00:40:08,329 --> 00:40:06,240 standing because it would be we can't 1078 00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:08,339 even calculate what it would be worth in 1079 00:40:13,310 --> 00:40:11,520 dollars and cents yeah agreed and you 1080 00:40:15,770 --> 00:40:13,320 know but I keep coming back to the whole 1081 00:40:19,069 --> 00:40:15,780 thing you don't have to give up 1082 00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:19,079 everything in order to inform the 1083 00:40:24,890 --> 00:40:22,380 American public of what they have a need 1084 00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:24,900 what we have a need and a right to know 1085 00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:27,780 if we are not alone in the universe if 1086 00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:30,660 there are craft of Unknown Origin be it 1087 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:33,720 extraterrestrial or weirder and we have 1088 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:36,780 obtained these somehow through crashes 1089 00:40:42,849 --> 00:40:39,180 or deliveries and then we've been able 1090 00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:42,859 to to Garner derivative Technologies 1091 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,599 this the bigger picture is so important 1092 00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:48,000 like honestly I'll throw a grenade like 1093 00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:50,940 in into this the bigger picture is so 1094 00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:51,920 important 1095 00:40:57,530 --> 00:40:54,780 we have a right to know about the world 1096 00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:57,540 we live in we have a right to know and a 1097 00:41:04,010 --> 00:41:00,560 need to know if our cosmology of of 1098 00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:04,020 existence is wrong now I do get it that 1099 00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:06,000 we have to protect Secrets but again 1100 00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:08,760 I'll come back to the atomic program we 1101 00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,160 know nuclear bombs exist 1102 00:41:14,990 --> 00:41:13,440 no one's teaching people how to people 1103 00:41:17,630 --> 00:41:15,000 shouldn't be teaching people how to do 1104 00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:17,640 it so I just I don't know man I'm we 1105 00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:19,800 wouldn't have acknowledged or announced 1106 00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:22,440 the nuclear bomb existing before we had 1107 00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:24,240 blown one up and there our adversaries 1108 00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:25,740 knew for sure that we had it it doesn't 1109 00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:27,540 make it right though but yeah it's a 1110 00:41:32,270 --> 00:41:29,880 different apples to Orange is like I get 1111 00:41:34,849 --> 00:41:32,280 your point I'm just saying yeah man if 1112 00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:34,859 this is true if this information is true 1113 00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,260 people have a need to know well you know 1114 00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,359 the point was in discussing this 1115 00:41:44,030 --> 00:41:42,000 legislation that uh it still has a long 1116 00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:44,040 way to go yes it passed a senate 1117 00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,720 committee it still has to be passed by 1118 00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:47,520 the Senate by the house signed by the 1119 00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,160 president the lobbying effort 1120 00:41:55,970 --> 00:41:52,800 um anti has not really uh shown his face 1121 00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:55,980 yet we don't know what anti-legislation 1122 00:42:01,370 --> 00:41:58,980 Witnesses might appear uh or what kind 1123 00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:01,380 of pressure will be born on these 1124 00:42:06,410 --> 00:42:03,240 members of Congress but you can bet it's 1125 00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:06,420 coming and media pressure as well so I'm 1126 00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:08,820 in favor of it I think we should I hope 1127 00:42:13,069 --> 00:42:11,400 it does well I hope it moved forward but 1128 00:42:14,450 --> 00:42:13,079 people should not get their hopes up 1129 00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,460 because we don't know how that's going 1130 00:42:17,690 --> 00:42:16,079 to end yeah you're always managing hope 1131 00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:17,700 so in the UFO field it's as if you've 1132 00:42:21,770 --> 00:42:19,980 been doing this for 35 years and you 1133 00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:21,780 have seen things go wrong yeah you've 1134 00:42:25,609 --> 00:42:23,400 had a lifetime of disappointments on 1135 00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,619 this time you have huh yeah exactly well 1136 00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:27,359 I don't know but it you have to admit 1137 00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:28,680 this we're seeing things that we've 1138 00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:30,420 never thought before and I I do want to 1139 00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,339 do a shout out to Senator gillibrand too 1140 00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,800 oh straight up Senator gillibrant you're 1141 00:42:38,510 --> 00:42:36,960 doing good work because without her 1142 00:42:40,670 --> 00:42:38,520 pushing this and I don't know if she's 1143 00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:40,680 the most informed person on this topic 1144 00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:43,320 but she has absolutely been super active 1145 00:42:48,410 --> 00:42:46,500 in getting all of this happening so look 1146 00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:48,420 as long as our representatives are 1147 00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:51,180 representing our interests that I'm good 1148 00:42:54,410 --> 00:42:53,400 for it and by the way this is bipartisan 1149 00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:54,420 and we're going to see that a lot more 1150 00:42:58,730 --> 00:42:57,119 in the next month absolutely I want to 1151 00:43:01,069 --> 00:42:58,740 expand the conversation a little bit 1152 00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:01,079 it's not just an American issue it's an 1153 00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:03,420 international it's a global issue and we 1154 00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:05,640 recently had a chance to sort of broaden 1155 00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:07,260 the discussion by talking about 1156 00:43:11,329 --> 00:43:09,240 something going on in Canada there's a 1157 00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:11,339 member of parliament named Larry McGuire 1158 00:43:15,650 --> 00:43:14,160 and we recently released a letter that 1159 00:43:17,809 --> 00:43:15,660 he had written to their minister of 1160 00:43:20,329 --> 00:43:17,819 defense and he makes some really 1161 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:20,339 provocative statements in that letter uh 1162 00:43:23,569 --> 00:43:21,599 you know there's been a lot of blowback 1163 00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,579 on this well what does he know he must 1164 00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:25,440 just be getting information from Lou 1165 00:43:30,290 --> 00:43:28,200 Elizondo and Hal put off in the UFO Echo 1166 00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:30,300 chamber that is not our understanding of 1167 00:43:35,329 --> 00:43:33,060 it no that's not right that's that's not 1168 00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:35,339 what's going on so okay let's back up so 1169 00:43:40,609 --> 00:43:38,460 we released a letter that we were 1170 00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:40,619 informed about and obtained and that 1171 00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:44,520 letter specifically taughts the uh 1172 00:43:52,370 --> 00:43:49,020 Minister of Defense uh from Canada Anon 1173 00:43:54,530 --> 00:43:52,380 is is how you saying I guess and he said 1174 00:43:57,410 --> 00:43:54,540 make sure to get a classified briefing 1175 00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,420 and by the way five eyes foreign 1176 00:44:01,490 --> 00:43:59,520 material program I mean it was by the 1177 00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:01,500 way I think that's classified in Canada 1178 00:44:05,329 --> 00:44:04,140 it's not in the U.S amazing that it was 1179 00:44:07,309 --> 00:44:05,339 in that letter 1180 00:44:10,670 --> 00:44:07,319 so we released that saying we got more 1181 00:44:14,450 --> 00:44:10,680 work to do well we did more work we have 1182 00:44:16,130 --> 00:44:14,460 confirmed 100 he wrote that letter and 1183 00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:16,140 that that was an informed letter and I 1184 00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:17,520 don't know how far you want to go with 1185 00:44:22,490 --> 00:44:19,440 talking about it and we can't say how 1186 00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,500 but we know for sure that they did their 1187 00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:24,480 own into that they found Canada found 1188 00:44:28,730 --> 00:44:26,760 their UFO exploitation program what 1189 00:44:30,589 --> 00:44:28,740 would you say this is Larry McGuire has 1190 00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,599 a long-standing interest in this topic 1191 00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:32,880 he's not trying to replace uh prime 1192 00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:35,099 minister Trudeau as the leader of Canada 1193 00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,380 he's secure in the position he's been in 1194 00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:39,839 it a lot of years his personal interest 1195 00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,240 in UFOs has sort of driven him forward 1196 00:44:47,089 --> 00:44:44,400 and he came across some information and 1197 00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:47,099 yes he did meet with Lou Elizondo he did 1198 00:44:50,990 --> 00:44:49,020 meet with Hal putoff he met with other 1199 00:44:54,109 --> 00:44:51,000 members of the U.S government to get 1200 00:44:56,450 --> 00:44:54,119 information exchange views on the UAP 1201 00:44:59,089 --> 00:44:56,460 mystery but he also develops his own 1202 00:45:01,790 --> 00:44:59,099 source of information we can't say what 1203 00:45:04,370 --> 00:45:01,800 we know we can't say how we know that he 1204 00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,380 knows but we can say that it is 1205 00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,720 independent of all The Usual Suspects in 1206 00:45:11,450 --> 00:45:08,640 this field yeah I mean I would imagine 1207 00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:11,460 it would be firsthand direct individuals 1208 00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:13,980 I would imagine that that they would 1209 00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:16,079 know the program the program name and 1210 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,420 individuals that worked on it that's why 1211 00:45:22,430 --> 00:45:20,400 you would write a letter like that we 1212 00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:22,440 should use a clip from an earlier 1213 00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:25,740 interview that Larry McGuire of Dave in 1214 00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:27,060 which he talks about his interest in 1215 00:45:31,309 --> 00:45:28,560 this topic and where he'd like to see it 1216 00:45:33,950 --> 00:45:31,319 go well what can you share with me about 1217 00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:33,960 what the Canadian military has seen or 1218 00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:36,480 certainly I know of some of the Canadian 1219 00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:38,040 sightings out there but but share a 1220 00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:39,420 little of that with me 1221 00:45:43,010 --> 00:45:40,680 well we know that there's been some 1222 00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:43,020 sightings in some of near or around some 1223 00:45:45,770 --> 00:45:44,520 of our nuclear facilities there's been 1224 00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:45,780 sightings across the whole country 1225 00:45:50,930 --> 00:45:47,460 there's been data that's been gathered 1226 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,940 in a couple of areas but we haven't had 1227 00:45:57,050 --> 00:45:52,560 very much public discourse on this at 1228 00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:01,069 about Canadians being briefed we know 1229 00:46:05,390 --> 00:46:03,180 that you've been briefed on some of this 1230 00:46:07,370 --> 00:46:05,400 some of this previous report I met Mr 1231 00:46:09,230 --> 00:46:07,380 Elizondo myself about a year and a half 1232 00:46:11,089 --> 00:46:09,240 ago a year and a quarter ago or so so 1233 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:11,099 had a briefing with him that's after he 1234 00:46:14,690 --> 00:46:12,780 left the U.S military to become more 1235 00:46:17,089 --> 00:46:14,700 public and getting the information more 1236 00:46:18,290 --> 00:46:17,099 public we know that we don't know 1237 00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,300 whether the Prime Minister has been 1238 00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:20,880 briefed in Canada my colleague in 1239 00:46:25,309 --> 00:46:22,859 defense on our side of the house has put 1240 00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:25,319 forward a statement on it as well but 1241 00:46:28,609 --> 00:46:26,400 other than that there's been very little 1242 00:46:32,410 --> 00:46:28,619 discourse we do know that the minister 1243 00:46:34,849 --> 00:46:32,420 has been briefed in Canada but 1244 00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:34,859 you know beyond that there hasn't been 1245 00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:36,540 very much discourse and so what I'm 1246 00:46:39,770 --> 00:46:38,339 trying to do is say that we need to have 1247 00:46:42,890 --> 00:46:39,780 a parallel program to what the United 1248 00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:42,900 States already has in accumulating this 1249 00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:45,660 information in a common area and you 1250 00:46:50,809 --> 00:46:48,500 know we think that the uh the uh 1251 00:46:52,970 --> 00:46:50,819 just with the objective to determine 1252 00:46:55,130 --> 00:46:52,980 what the origins and intent of these UAP 1253 00:46:56,809 --> 00:46:55,140 are and it should be probably discussed 1254 00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:56,819 and done through the Canada Chief 1255 00:47:01,910 --> 00:46:59,839 science advisor which is Dr in Canada 1256 00:47:04,370 --> 00:47:01,920 well I want to ask you about that in 1257 00:47:05,809 --> 00:47:04,380 this public hearing they said that they 1258 00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:05,819 are working with NASA they're working 1259 00:47:10,250 --> 00:47:07,740 with our allies 1260 00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:10,260 um I'm assuming that might mean five 1261 00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:11,579 eyes 1262 00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:13,680 um what would you like them to share 1263 00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:16,079 they seem they seem to be dealing it 1264 00:47:21,770 --> 00:47:19,440 more from a national security issue but 1265 00:47:23,569 --> 00:47:21,780 Canada isn't 1266 00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:23,579 well I think we need to be careful with 1267 00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:25,980 that uh but we need to move forward with 1268 00:47:31,309 --> 00:47:29,040 a uh hopefully a non-partisan party here 1269 00:47:32,930 --> 00:47:31,319 in Canada as well if there's any issue 1270 00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,940 that we can be nonpartisan on in Canada 1271 00:47:37,309 --> 00:47:34,800 it should be this one and I think that 1272 00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:37,319 we've got an opportunity to bring uh the 1273 00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:40,200 discourse to a more public realm and uh 1274 00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,300 just have a recognition of what's 1275 00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:43,920 already taken place in the legislation 1276 00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:45,420 past and the reports that have come out 1277 00:47:51,050 --> 00:47:48,240 of the U.S we know that these objects uh 1278 00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:51,060 these phenomena do not know what borders 1279 00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,680 are so we need to take into 1280 00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,720 consideration that this is a northern uh 1281 00:48:00,829 --> 00:47:57,119 you know a North American airspace and 1282 00:48:02,809 --> 00:48:00,839 uh and these things transcend uh into 1283 00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:02,819 both of our Nations and and the United 1284 00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,520 States so there is an opportunity there 1285 00:48:10,670 --> 00:48:07,920 to discuss these things more openly we 1286 00:48:12,829 --> 00:48:10,680 just haven't got uh the discourse going 1287 00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:12,839 here I think to even get our Canadian 1288 00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:14,520 people to say oh well we're in conduct 1289 00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:16,560 in much of a conjunction with the 1290 00:48:20,809 --> 00:48:19,079 discussions with the U.S you say 1291 00:48:23,569 --> 00:48:20,819 frustrated that can it is just not 1292 00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,579 taking this seriously enough 1293 00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:25,920 well when you see the information that's 1294 00:48:29,569 --> 00:48:27,240 come out of the United States you'd have 1295 00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:29,579 to take it seriously uh and we're just 1296 00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:32,220 saying that we need to get more uh as I 1297 00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:34,319 said we need to identify the origins and 1298 00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:37,560 the intent of these uaps and uh that 1299 00:48:42,050 --> 00:48:38,940 certainly can't hurt anything it's got 1300 00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:42,060 to be developed uh between our countries 1301 00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:43,520 we should be sharing that information 1302 00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:46,740 and uh it's certainly uh something that 1303 00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:47,760 we think the efforts should be 1304 00:48:51,170 --> 00:48:49,740 undertaken to investigate and you know 1305 00:48:52,970 --> 00:48:51,180 and make those findings public in a 1306 00:48:55,790 --> 00:48:52,980 responsible manner I 1307 00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,800 here's a guy that is like as I 1308 00:49:00,170 --> 00:48:57,599 metaphorically said throw in a grenade 1309 00:49:03,050 --> 00:49:00,180 right I think that he's frustrated this 1310 00:49:05,450 --> 00:49:03,060 is my personal take I think that he is 1311 00:49:07,730 --> 00:49:05,460 frustrated with not making progress on 1312 00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:07,740 this issue I think that he's urging his 1313 00:49:12,530 --> 00:49:09,540 Minister of Defense to get a classified 1314 00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:12,540 briefing which they issued like some 1315 00:49:17,630 --> 00:49:15,359 denial letter about you know UFOs in 1316 00:49:19,849 --> 00:49:17,640 general and we'll talk about that but I 1317 00:49:21,170 --> 00:49:19,859 I think that the main thing is did she 1318 00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:21,180 get the briefing 1319 00:49:25,309 --> 00:49:23,460 that's the question the journalists 1320 00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:25,319 should be asking right now I'll tell you 1321 00:49:30,109 --> 00:49:27,240 this though Canada took a different 1322 00:49:32,690 --> 00:49:30,119 stance in the U.S Canada wants to 1323 00:49:35,089 --> 00:49:32,700 explore this scientifically 1324 00:49:36,890 --> 00:49:35,099 where the U.S wants to come at it from a 1325 00:49:38,450 --> 00:49:36,900 standpoint of National Security now 1326 00:49:42,290 --> 00:49:38,460 again I just want to be real clear I am 1327 00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:42,300 all for National Security Do no harm 1328 00:49:47,930 --> 00:49:46,260 some Secrets some Secrets should be kept 1329 00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,940 I want to make that really clear some 1330 00:49:52,609 --> 00:49:50,160 Secrets should be kept 1331 00:49:54,290 --> 00:49:52,619 with that said as journalists it is our 1332 00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:54,300 job if it's in the public interest to 1333 00:49:57,290 --> 00:49:56,339 bring things forward that's all we're 1334 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,300 doing 1335 00:50:00,770 --> 00:49:59,040 you know since that letter came forward 1336 00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:00,780 of course he's taken all kinds of shots 1337 00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:02,940 which is inevitable in this world you 1338 00:50:08,030 --> 00:50:05,520 know he's a back bencher he has no uh 1339 00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:08,040 great sources he's just picked this up 1340 00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:09,960 from the UFO Grapevine kind of a thing 1341 00:50:14,210 --> 00:50:12,540 people trying to slap him around I'll 1342 00:50:16,730 --> 00:50:14,220 point out a couple of things he wrote 1343 00:50:18,530 --> 00:50:16,740 that letter in March it was not made 1344 00:50:20,990 --> 00:50:18,540 public he didn't issue it as a news 1345 00:50:23,089 --> 00:50:21,000 release we know that it was personally 1346 00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,099 handed to the ministry of Defense not 1347 00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:25,680 sent through the mail handed to her so 1348 00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:27,300 that she could read it but we know that 1349 00:50:32,089 --> 00:50:30,060 she didn't respond until after we did a 1350 00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:32,099 story about it we've been told that it 1351 00:50:36,349 --> 00:50:33,900 was out there somewhere on on the 1352 00:50:39,230 --> 00:50:36,359 Twitter verse that we didn't break it I 1353 00:50:42,170 --> 00:50:39,240 don't care I mean but whoever had that 1354 00:50:44,329 --> 00:50:42,180 letter before and didn't make a point of 1355 00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,339 letting UFO World know that it exists 1356 00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:46,800 you've screwed up you know if you're a 1357 00:50:51,290 --> 00:50:48,540 journalist and you had that letter and 1358 00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,300 didn't do a story you screwed up so you 1359 00:50:57,890 --> 00:50:54,000 know uh you know we we made a point of 1360 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,900 it it made international news uh Larry 1361 00:51:02,329 --> 00:50:59,760 McGuire gets a lot of attention and I 1362 00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,339 think he's he's held up pretty well 1363 00:51:06,109 --> 00:51:04,559 against all the criticism that came but 1364 00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:06,119 he raised some really good points about 1365 00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,480 the five eyes Nations U.S UK Canada New 1366 00:51:13,609 --> 00:51:11,280 Zealand Australia that they have a 1367 00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:13,619 program involving reverse engineering 1368 00:51:17,630 --> 00:51:15,839 and it's not just something Scuttle 1369 00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,640 buddy picked up at a bar down on the 1370 00:51:22,010 --> 00:51:19,680 corner it's information that he has 1371 00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:22,020 direct access to 1372 00:51:26,690 --> 00:51:24,240 um and the response from the Minister of 1373 00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:26,700 Defense which didn't happen until after 1374 00:51:30,970 --> 00:51:29,400 we released this letter was straight out 1375 00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:30,980 of Project Blue Book 1376 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,800 I if if the pr mom for the Pentagon 1377 00:51:38,089 --> 00:51:36,240 didn't have a hand in writing this thing 1378 00:51:40,490 --> 00:51:38,099 I'd be very surprised because the 1379 00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,500 language is right out of Blue Book oh we 1380 00:51:44,809 --> 00:51:42,480 haven't studied that stuff since 1969 1381 00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:44,819 it's no big deal it's I don't know what 1382 00:51:57,530 --> 00:51:55,430 whatever so she okay so so we have seen 1383 00:51:59,089 --> 00:51:57,540 direct Lies coming from Pentagon 1384 00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,099 spokespeople like the one we just 1385 00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,200 mentioned we've seen that so you have 1386 00:52:04,849 --> 00:52:03,359 this oh nothing to see her move on so 1387 00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:04,859 what you're saying is that this letter 1388 00:52:10,010 --> 00:52:08,220 that was responded to from Canada says 1389 00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:10,020 nothing to see here move on we're not 1390 00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:12,900 reverse engineering UFOs well that is 1391 00:52:20,030 --> 00:52:17,040 absolute utter so they found 1392 00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:20,040 their UFO program it is an exploitation 1393 00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:22,500 program it is housed under the five eyes 1394 00:52:28,609 --> 00:52:25,440 foreign material program and this is 1395 00:52:31,309 --> 00:52:28,619 just one program but what it implies is 1396 00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:31,319 it implies it coordinated multinational 1397 00:52:38,569 --> 00:52:34,079 effort to reverse engineer and work on 1398 00:52:41,329 --> 00:52:38,579 UFOs or what people call UAP so the 1399 00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:41,339 reason this letter was put out was 1400 00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:43,200 really because if you really read the 1401 00:52:48,049 --> 00:52:46,319 letter it's out because Canada thought 1402 00:52:49,849 --> 00:52:48,059 they were going to be outpaced they 1403 00:52:53,150 --> 00:52:49,859 thought they would lose public trust 1404 00:52:56,750 --> 00:52:53,160 with their citizens it was accus akus 1405 00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:56,760 which is a a trilateral group which is 1406 00:53:01,849 --> 00:52:59,520 basically uh saying we're gonna we're 1407 00:53:03,650 --> 00:53:01,859 gonna look at this independently and by 1408 00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:03,660 the way we might they might put 1409 00:53:07,370 --> 00:53:05,280 something out so the whole thing 1410 00:53:08,690 --> 00:53:07,380 McGuire's letter was saying was people 1411 00:53:10,609 --> 00:53:08,700 are going to find out they're going to 1412 00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:10,619 be some admissions but not from the five 1413 00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,160 eyes but from that group of three so it 1414 00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:16,319 kind of sounded like he really raised 1415 00:53:20,270 --> 00:53:18,480 the alarm he was like you need to be 1416 00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:20,280 read in you need to get a classified 1417 00:53:25,250 --> 00:53:23,520 briefing I don't know it I don't think 1418 00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,260 she did straight up I don't think she 1419 00:53:29,329 --> 00:53:27,119 did and I think that they deserve uh the 1420 00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:29,339 the public Canadian public deserves an 1421 00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:31,260 answer to no did she get that briefing 1422 00:53:36,109 --> 00:53:33,720 exactly and you know the tone of that 1423 00:53:38,030 --> 00:53:36,119 letter sent in response was what a bunch 1424 00:53:40,370 --> 00:53:38,040 of nonsense I'm not going to waste my 1425 00:53:41,809 --> 00:53:40,380 time on this stuff I suspect that Larry 1426 00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:41,819 McGuire is not going to take that 1427 00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:44,220 sitting down we have no idea what kind 1428 00:53:47,630 --> 00:53:45,900 of communications have gone on behind 1429 00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,640 the scenes between the ministry of 1430 00:53:51,650 --> 00:53:49,680 defense and him and other members of 1431 00:53:53,390 --> 00:53:51,660 parliament whether they are asking 1432 00:53:55,490 --> 00:53:53,400 questions whether his colleagues are 1433 00:53:57,950 --> 00:53:55,500 saying hey what's the deal on this uh 1434 00:54:00,589 --> 00:53:57,960 and how the other four eyes of those 1435 00:54:03,230 --> 00:54:00,599 five eyes Nations have responded we know 1436 00:54:04,490 --> 00:54:03,240 one of them responded Australia sent a 1437 00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:04,500 letter saying we don't know what you're 1438 00:54:07,790 --> 00:54:05,700 talking about we have nothing to do with 1439 00:54:10,490 --> 00:54:07,800 this but of course Australia has taken 1440 00:54:13,849 --> 00:54:10,500 their lead from the U.S all the way on 1441 00:54:16,190 --> 00:54:13,859 this UFO issue they follow our lead they 1442 00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:16,200 do what we say and they've been 1443 00:54:20,930 --> 00:54:19,200 completely uncooperative in terms of 1444 00:54:24,890 --> 00:54:20,940 disclosing what their government knows 1445 00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:24,900 on this issue you yeah well I I think 1446 00:54:28,670 --> 00:54:26,640 that the pressure is building so I'm 1447 00:54:30,410 --> 00:54:28,680 seeing this like I don't know what 1448 00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,420 disclosure is I think that we're kind of 1449 00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:32,880 like experiencing that in some way uh 1450 00:54:36,109 --> 00:54:34,260 but I want to come back to something you 1451 00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,119 said there are two things you said that 1452 00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:39,359 are just unbelievable more unbelievable 1453 00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:42,000 than UFOs the first thing you said is 1454 00:54:45,530 --> 00:54:43,920 that you sit back and watch television 1455 00:54:47,809 --> 00:54:45,540 you don't got time for that do you 1456 00:54:49,549 --> 00:54:47,819 actually watch like cop shows once in a 1457 00:54:51,530 --> 00:54:49,559 while yeah when I'm going to sleep yeah 1458 00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:51,540 unbelievable for the record okay but 1459 00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:52,920 that's great so you got a little down 1460 00:54:57,890 --> 00:54:55,920 time second thing you said is that if 1461 00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:57,900 you found out the truth that you're not 1462 00:55:02,510 --> 00:55:00,000 sure you'd tell the American public that 1463 00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:02,520 you're reporting I call you 1464 00:55:06,290 --> 00:55:04,260 would tell people wouldn't you sure I 1465 00:55:08,990 --> 00:55:06,300 would yeah but yeah you would 1466 00:55:11,870 --> 00:55:09,000 I I hope I reserve at least a little bit 1467 00:55:13,849 --> 00:55:11,880 of doubt in that nobody knows nobody 1468 00:55:15,890 --> 00:55:13,859 that we know knows what the truth is 1469 00:55:18,530 --> 00:55:15,900 yeah we don't know what the ultimate 1470 00:55:20,030 --> 00:55:18,540 answer is we don't know who they are why 1471 00:55:21,650 --> 00:55:20,040 they're here we don't have answers to 1472 00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:21,660 any of the big questions and I don't 1473 00:55:28,790 --> 00:55:25,500 think people at Lockheed or saic or 1474 00:55:30,530 --> 00:55:28,800 Northrop or the DIA or CIA I don't think 1475 00:55:32,089 --> 00:55:30,540 any of them know either we've been 1476 00:55:35,089 --> 00:55:32,099 pretty far up the food chain we've 1477 00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,099 talked to as many people as exist in the 1478 00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:37,440 white world uh not the and a lot of them 1479 00:55:41,930 --> 00:55:39,780 in the black world and uh they don't 1480 00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,940 know either we found nobody who really 1481 00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:44,160 knows the answer to it so there might be 1482 00:55:49,130 --> 00:55:46,559 something there that does not need to be 1483 00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:49,140 revealed that would cause uh changes to 1484 00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:51,000 our world that could not be we couldn't 1485 00:55:55,490 --> 00:55:53,760 stuff the genie back in the bottle so to 1486 00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:55,500 clarify I mean you wouldn't do anything 1487 00:55:59,870 --> 00:55:57,839 that hurt our country you wouldn't do 1488 00:56:02,329 --> 00:55:59,880 anything that hurt our national security 1489 00:56:04,430 --> 00:56:02,339 nor would I and we've actually taken 1490 00:56:07,010 --> 00:56:04,440 great measure to make sure that that is 1491 00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:07,020 the case without anything we put out but 1492 00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,380 on the other hand your personal you know 1493 00:56:14,210 --> 00:56:12,000 desire to know and this sort of thing 1494 00:56:15,049 --> 00:56:14,220 all the way up the food chain right as 1495 00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:15,059 you said 1496 00:56:20,809 --> 00:56:17,460 when you say people 1497 00:56:23,690 --> 00:56:20,819 nobody knows the whole truth this has 1498 00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:23,700 always concerned me and I is there any 1499 00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:26,460 adult in the room and in your opinion is 1500 00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:29,700 there anybody that knows the full scope 1501 00:56:33,170 --> 00:56:31,380 of what's going on do you think no one 1502 00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,180 that I know and no one that I've ever 1503 00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:35,040 talked to and no one that I've heard of 1504 00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:37,920 uh we both know people that know a lot 1505 00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:40,079 more than we do and that the general 1506 00:56:44,329 --> 00:56:42,720 public knows uh but I don't think 1507 00:56:46,490 --> 00:56:44,339 there's anybody that knows the full 1508 00:56:48,010 --> 00:56:46,500 picture I mean that's a frightening idea 1509 00:56:50,450 --> 00:56:48,020 that things have been so 1510 00:56:52,370 --> 00:56:50,460 compartmentalized and stove piped to 1511 00:56:55,010 --> 00:56:52,380 where you have these auxiliary groups 1512 00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:55,020 just running these UFO programs none of 1513 00:56:57,890 --> 00:56:56,160 them are talking to each other this is 1514 00:57:00,530 --> 00:56:57,900 what Lazar said back in the day he's 1515 00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:00,540 like you can't do science that way you 1516 00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:02,400 can't separate and you need 1517 00:57:07,490 --> 00:57:05,280 collaboration you need a variety of 1518 00:57:10,250 --> 00:57:07,500 opinions and viewpoints so what you're 1519 00:57:12,650 --> 00:57:10,260 saying if I'm understanding is that you 1520 00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:12,660 think this issue has been so segmented 1521 00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:15,839 and fragmented that there is not one 1522 00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:18,240 authoritative figure or buy or group 1523 00:57:22,790 --> 00:57:20,760 that's part of it there isn't there it 1524 00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:22,800 is stove piped and there's not a lot of 1525 00:57:26,510 --> 00:57:24,240 cooperation between the different 1526 00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:26,520 special access programs and interest 1527 00:57:30,829 --> 00:57:28,800 groups and companies involved in this 1528 00:57:32,930 --> 00:57:30,839 but there's also the larger picture of 1529 00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:32,940 is this knowable 1530 00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:34,920 um are we capable of answering these 1531 00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,880 questions 1532 00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:37,680 I don't know anybody they can answer 1533 00:57:43,730 --> 00:57:40,079 that that part of it uh it's be like 1534 00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:43,740 have you met God you know is God real uh 1535 00:57:49,609 --> 00:57:47,040 is that kind of a level of it it goes to 1536 00:57:51,230 --> 00:57:49,619 the nature of reality and I'm not sure 1537 00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:51,240 that we are going to be able to answer 1538 00:57:54,770 --> 00:57:52,559 that ever 1539 00:57:56,270 --> 00:57:54,780 you like you get so esoteric man you 1540 00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:56,280 become like one of these guys like 1541 00:58:00,770 --> 00:57:59,040 working on a program you ask them about 1542 00:58:02,329 --> 00:58:00,780 the technology if these people are 1543 00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:02,339 telling the truth and it's like they 1544 00:58:06,410 --> 00:58:04,980 become like kind of Big Picture People 1545 00:58:07,730 --> 00:58:06,420 all of a sudden when they're really 1546 00:58:10,010 --> 00:58:07,740 Engineers they can tell you the 1547 00:58:12,829 --> 00:58:10,020 microcosm I don't understand what that 1548 00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:12,839 means like what is this potentially 1549 00:58:17,690 --> 00:58:15,180 bigger picture 1550 00:58:19,730 --> 00:58:17,700 I I it's beyond well we can kick it 1551 00:58:22,010 --> 00:58:19,740 around in the short term though this 1552 00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:22,020 legislation in my view is a great step 1553 00:58:27,230 --> 00:58:25,319 forward I'd like to know I I would root 1554 00:58:29,210 --> 00:58:27,240 for the Senate and and Congress to go 1555 00:58:31,069 --> 00:58:29,220 ahead and pass the legislation and see 1556 00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:31,079 what happens and see if they can get at 1557 00:58:35,210 --> 00:58:33,119 the bottom of it and then reveal to the 1558 00:58:37,370 --> 00:58:35,220 public what they can without damaging 1559 00:58:38,930 --> 00:58:37,380 National Security along the way though 1560 00:58:40,430 --> 00:58:38,940 there are significant challenges there 1561 00:58:42,650 --> 00:58:40,440 is going to be pushback to that 1562 00:58:44,930 --> 00:58:42,660 legislation and you continue to see 1563 00:58:46,609 --> 00:58:44,940 although these proclamations from 1564 00:58:49,250 --> 00:58:46,619 government officials at the Department 1565 00:58:50,690 --> 00:58:49,260 of Defense about transparency and oh boy 1566 00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:50,700 yeah we're really answering your 1567 00:58:55,730 --> 00:58:53,160 questions you see these proclamations 1568 00:58:58,370 --> 00:58:55,740 that ring Hollow to me and I'll give you 1569 00:59:01,849 --> 00:58:58,380 an example just this past week another 1570 00:59:05,089 --> 00:59:01,859 barrage of crap shot at Lou Elizondo 1571 00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:05,099 letters that are leaked out of the out 1572 00:59:10,010 --> 00:59:07,020 of the Pentagon that take another shot 1573 00:59:12,829 --> 00:59:10,020 and try to question was atip real did 1574 00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:12,839 atip study UFOs did Lou Alexander have 1575 00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:14,640 anything to do with it people raising 1576 00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:16,799 those questions is all over again trying 1577 00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:19,440 to muddy the waters on Lou who's you 1578 00:59:23,390 --> 00:59:21,599 know by this point you can't take back 1579 00:59:25,549 --> 00:59:23,400 what they've already said yes it was 1580 00:59:28,250 --> 00:59:25,559 real yes he controlled he was in control 1581 00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:28,260 of it and it was legitimate and now they 1582 00:59:32,690 --> 00:59:30,839 try to undercut him again because they 1583 00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:32,700 know he's getting ready to drop some 1584 00:59:36,890 --> 00:59:35,160 bombs yeah yeah well look the truth will 1585 00:59:39,049 --> 00:59:36,900 rise to the surface I think if everybody 1586 00:59:41,150 --> 00:59:39,059 you know supports this type of thing to 1587 00:59:43,309 --> 00:59:41,160 try to explore and figure out the 1588 00:59:45,470 --> 00:59:43,319 legislation like I hope it passes in the 1589 00:59:48,530 --> 00:59:45,480 exact form it is I am very encouraged 1590 00:59:50,809 --> 00:59:48,540 what I'm extremely encouraged about is I 1591 00:59:52,730 --> 00:59:50,819 think to to get public up to date to get 1592 00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:52,740 everybody in the park up to date we need 1593 00:59:57,530 --> 00:59:55,440 people on camera coming forward in the 1594 01:00:01,309 --> 00:59:57,540 Congressional setting testifying under 1595 01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:01,319 oath and I got a sneak in suspicion that 1596 01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:02,880 we're gonna see that real soon what do 1597 01:00:09,289 --> 01:00:04,799 you think I believe so like you know 1598 01:00:13,490 --> 01:00:09,299 maybe within weeks let's end right here 1599 01:00:16,030 --> 01:00:13,500 um I just say at the end that 1600 01:00:19,130 --> 01:00:16,040 um Senator Rubio senator gillibrand 1601 01:00:28,220 --> 01:00:19,140 Representatives Gallagher burchett you 1602 01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:34,450 [Music] 1603 01:00:43,130 --> 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